On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:52 PM, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
> In article <83c4fe76-52e8-48ed-b6c2-0691555d3...@icann.org> you write:
>>I think there are two parts to your question. First, the Registry Stakeholder 
>>Group (RySG) request for reconsideration that triggered this proposal;
>>perhaps someone else in this list (from the RySG) can speak to that.
>
> I took a look at the request and I read it as saying that RDAP would
> cost money, and if it turns out that the final RDAP spec is different,
> they'll have to spend even more money.  I didn't see any compelling
> technical issues.  Needless to say, registries deeply resent anything
> that requires them to spend money, particularly the new gTLDs whose
> business plans are imploding.
Here's the thing I found skewed:

"Furthermore, some of our members are on record stating that since the
RDAP profile replicates the known deficiencies of WHOIS – which is
currently being studied by a PDP WG – so it’s not commercially
feasible to deploy it to mimic a flawed system."

Where it seems to me they define "not commercially feasible" as any
technology that has flaws. I guess we should all quit using the
Internet, throw-away our cell phones, and quit driving cars.

Snark aside, this argument about commercial feasibility falls flat
considering all 5 RIRs and several ccTLDs have implemented it. It's
simply not a credible argument.

>
>>The second part would be ICANN organization’s proposal to address the RySG 
>>request. ICANN is putting for the community’s consideration to do as
>>requested by the RySG and remove the requirement to implement RDAP. We are 
>>looking to learn what other members from the community have to say.
>
> We should say in as few words as possible that access to WHOIS
> information important for security, even in its current less than
> ideal state, RDAP provides better access, and not having it will
> negatively affect DNS users.  Considering that nearly all registries
> share a handful of back ends, the actual cost per registry will be
> small since a back end should only have to do RDAP once and it'll work
> for all their TLRs.
>

Agreed. I wonder if this is worthy of asking the IAB to make a statement.

-andy

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