Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-28 Thread John Summerfield
> JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That was wmconfig job: ensure menus were up to date. > > Well, they never really were. Not much supported that method of WM > config and whenever you installed a new app, it wasn't in the list. > > How many real fans of AnotherLevel are out there

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-28 Thread John Summerfield
> > > In fact people with 16 Megs boxes will be unahappy. Even with 32 megs > > > Gnome/kde are not so great when yoyu are using 6.2 beta. > > > > My daughter's using gnome on RHL 6.0 on a P133, 32 Mb and that's not > > flash. Esp when she starts SO. > > If you use a sensible configuration t

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread Alan Cox
> On a 486 _S_X? The scalable fonts must have been painful for a CPU > without math coprocessor. It took over 1 minute in a 386DX 40 to > parse them when X started. You turn them off. Definitely. I also built a custom window mangler for it Alan -- To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread JF Martinez
> > > > In fact people with 16 Megs boxes will be unahappy. Even with 32 megs > > > Gnome/kde are not so great when yoyu are using 6.2 beta. > > > > My daughter's using gnome on RHL 6.0 on a P133, 32 Mb and that's not > > flash. Esp when she starts SO. > > If you use a sensible configuratio

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread Alan Shutko
JF Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That was wmconfig job: ensure menus were up to date. Well, they never really were. Not much supported that method of WM config and whenever you installed a new app, it wasn't in the list. How many real fans of AnotherLevel are out there? I know I neve

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread Alan Cox
> > In fact people with 16 Megs boxes will be unahappy. Even with 32 megs > > Gnome/kde are not so great when yoyu are using 6.2 beta. > > My daughter's using gnome on RHL 6.0 on a P133, 32 Mb and that's not > flash. Esp when she starts SO. If you use a sensible configuration then both gnome

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread John Summerfield
> > > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > > The following packages and features are DEPRECATED, and may not > > > be supported or included in future Red Hat Linux releases: > > > - AnotherLevel > > > > Hmm, I guess fvwm2 users won't be quite happy with this... > > > > In fac

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread JF Martinez
> > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > The following packages and features are DEPRECATED, and may not > > be supported or included in future Red Hat Linux releases: > > - AnotherLevel > > Hmm, I guess fvwm2 users won't be quite happy with this... > In fact people with 16 Megs

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-27 Thread Alex Kanavin
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Bill Nottingham wrote: > The following packages and features are DEPRECATED, and may not > be supported or included in future Red Hat Linux releases: > - AnotherLevel Hmm, I guess fvwm2 users won't be quite happy with this... > - wmconfig Has AfterStep learned to set up it

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-11 Thread John Summerfield
> On Wed Feb 09 2000 at 23:47, George Karabin wrote: > > > > Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and > > > pre-releases) of a new distribution. In fact, two CHANGES files... > > Nice to see a reply so quickly. I hope this issue gets a fair bit of > debate (as this threa

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-11 Thread John Summerfield
> It can be a difficult and onerous task to rebuild lots of server and > client boxes up to a new distro version, or to try to integrate these > into existing infrastructures and configurations when some features > have changed (sometimes radically). To have some decent documentation > available

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-11 Thread John Summerfield
> Tony Nugent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and > > pre-releases) of a new distribution. In fact, two CHANGES files... > > There will be something along these lines with 6.2 final. I'm > not sure it will necessarily go into all the det

RPM and packaging (was: Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2)

2000-02-11 Thread Ingo Luetkebohle
Bill, thanks for the post. I think that the document is definetely a step in the right direction. On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 10:44:20AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > - The various BSD-based network services (telnet, finger, talk, > rsh, ruers, rwall, tftp) have been split into client and > s

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread Tony Nugent
Thanks for the reply Bill, it's really nice to know that you guys/gals are quietly listening here... On Thu Feb 10 2000 at 10:44, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Tony Nugent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and > > pre-releases) of a new distribu

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tony Nugent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and > pre-releases) of a new distribution. In fact, two CHANGES files... There will be something along these lines with 6.2 final. I'm not sure it will necessarily go into all the detail you need

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread Ingo Luetkebohle
On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 04:54:50PM +1000, Tony Nugent wrote: > - one to describe the overall changes (eg, the installer, new > or replaced/deleted packages, new features, default desktop > changes, overall stuff like that). The "WhatsNew" section of the Install Guide has muc

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread Chris Abbey
At 18:26 2/10/00 +1000, Tony Nugent wrote: >Nice to see a reply so quickly. I hope this issue gets a fair bit of >debate (as this thread died in a pathetic whimper in the lead-up to >rh61, and IIRC, rh60 before that). if memory serves the last time it was an entirely one sided plea from the user

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread Tony Nugent
On Wed Feb 09 2000 at 23:47, George Karabin wrote: > > Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and > > pre-releases) of a new distribution. In fact, two CHANGES files... Nice to see a reply so quickly. I hope this issue gets a fair bit of debate (as this thread died in a pa

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-10 Thread George Karabin
This ought to make interpreting the output a little easier by tagging each changelog with the package name, version, and release: 'rpm -q --queryformat "\n%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n###

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-09 Thread George Karabin
Oops. The syntax ought to be 'rpm -q --changelog -p '. I should have checked it before I sent it! George Karabin wrote: > RPM provides a hook that might give you some of what you want. 'rpm > --changelog -p will dump the changes associated with a list of > packages. You can use 'diff' to compar

Re: plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-09 Thread George Karabin
RPM provides a hook that might give you some of what you want. 'rpm --changelog -p will dump the changes associated with a list of packages. You can use 'diff' to compare the changes from an old release to a new release to see what's changed. I see two gotchas to this approach, depending on the

plead for documentation for changes in redhat 6.2

2000-02-09 Thread Tony Nugent
I've just read on slashdot that the redhat 6.2 beta has been made available (although I haven't check for it myself). I've asked about this before, and now would be a good time to bring this issue up again... Can a CHANGES file be provided with this and every release (and pre-releases) of a new