Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-14 Thread Ray Walters
 Hi Glenn; How do you and the roofers deal with Propanel steel roofs? That's hundreds of penetrations for the screws, with no flashings, and they depend on just a little rubber gasket.  Or how about the lead head nails on a corrugated metal roof?  Roofers t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase monitoring picking up other systems

2014-04-14 Thread Ray Walters
Funny the timing of the Wrenches list, just Saturday I added some Enphase inverters to an existing GTB Outback system. The Enphase are not AC coupled to the Outbacks, as I didn't want to get into the battery charging issues, and the customer has plenty of PV relative to the battery size. Howe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again

2014-04-16 Thread Ray Walters
On 4/16/2014 9:52 AM, d...@energysolarnow.com wrote: As Ray Walters wrote, L feet installed with the correct sealant have lasted as long as the comp roofs they're on. As can be seen in the attached pictures of L-feet on a roof that I will soon be repairing, the wrong sealant eventually s

[RE-wrenches] Franklin Subdrive SolarPAK

2014-04-18 Thread Ray Walters
HI All; Anyone have any experience with Franklin Electric's new Subdrive SolarPAK submersible pumps? They're showing 1.5 and 3 Hp options. Its a 3 phase motor powered by an above ground VSD type controller that allows for array direct pumping. This particular project needs about 10,000 GPD

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World shattered module

2014-04-21 Thread Ray Walters
The bottom corner modules are the likeliest to be damaged by somebody or something moving past the array. I'd check for any damage on the edge of the frame. I had kids run a vehicle into a pole mounted array once. No one would cop to it, but I found the matching damage on the roll cage of the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wrong title on my inquiry ... Charge Controller Question!

2014-04-22 Thread Ray Walters
Charge controller failure = system failure = customer sitting in the dark off grid. I would only use proven, UL listed equipment. Those are ridiculous current ratings. You would need to wire that with 500 MCM cable. If you look, you'll notice reputable brands like Midnite Solar, Outback, and B

Re: [RE-wrenches] (no subject)

2014-04-28 Thread Ray Walters
Interesting so does "require a tool" include taking a screw off the cover plate of the combiner box, too? What a game changer. I'm going to Mexico for my next project; I'll actually enjoy even more being the sole AHJ on the project. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian picture

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
This may apply to the other string on using photos, etc. but I hereby grant full rights to all registered users of the wrenches list to use any of my posted photos for educational purposes. I was trying to figure out the DC wiring myself. Its possible there is a homemade bussbar connected betw

Re: [RE-wrenches] Article 690, or The Haves Vs. Have Nots

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
secured by removable fasteners and connected by a flexible wiring system. This is not a change. Please help me understand the concern. Bill Brooks. *From:*re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Ray Walters *Sent:* Monday,

[RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
Hi All; In order to avoid any of my work showing up in someone's slideshow of horrors, I'm trying to find the correct way to wire 3 Sunny Islands with Cobra X flex cable. While it doesn't actually mention it in the SMA manual, a call to SMA tech support confirmed my suspicions: the DC lugs in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
e with ferrules) Jay Peltz power On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi All; In order to avoid any of my work showing up in someone's slideshow of horrors, I'm trying to find the correct way to wire 3 Sunny Islands with Cobra X flex cable. While it doesn't actuall

[RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
er BOS box comes with arctic ultra flex wire with ferrules) Jay Peltz power On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi All; In order to avoid any of my work showing up in someone's slideshow of horrors, I'm trying to find the correct way to wire 3 Sunny Islands with Cobra

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
aster Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 12:25 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray: Thanks for sharing the research. If you could forward to me of-line an email contact and part number I need to order for 4/0. Miller Solar On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Ray Walters <

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
r On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: What I'm finding in my research is that most of the manufacturers are just not keeping up with this requirement, meanwhile the use of fine stranded cable is increasing dramatically. ILSCO, BURNDY,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 1:29 PM, Phil Forest wrote: We use ferrules for fine stranded wire at terminals. Www.ferrulesdirect has it all. Phil Forest South Mountain Company On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarra

Re: [RE-wrenches] Low flow high head pump

2014-05-07 Thread Ray Walters
I've used Solamotor Jack pumps for that application. Excellent product with good support. http://www.solamotor.com/ R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 5/6/2014 6:07 PM, All Solar, Inc. wrote: Hi all

Re: [RE-wrenches] Small pump in larger casing

2014-05-09 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Bob-O, no torque arrestor is needed. We've hung small submersibles in hand dug wells 5 ft in diameter. You can actually hang several pumps, as long as you keep them from knocking into each other on installation. The pump does not move around like you might think, something is w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarups by Trace

2014-05-12 Thread Ray Walters
Funny, I'm working on one of those right now. We're pulling it all out and putting in Outback inverters. Those were legal to grid tie in the day, but they're at least 10 years behind on complying with UL 1741. No way you could use it in a new system. They were also really inefficient in GT mo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Degradation - voltage or current?

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
I agree that Voc doesn't seem to degrade as much. I've had a chance to measure several modules over 20 years old, and the Voc is only dropping about 1/2 the rate suggested by others here. I think a more appropriate number might be 0.25% V drop/ year. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cleaning Paint Off Modules

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
The sooner you get started, the easier it is to get off. The paint is still curing and hardening. Paint doesn't stick well to glass, so probably mild soap and water ( manufacturer approved) and a nylon scrubby pad will cure the problem. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cleaning Paint Off Modules

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
Woofenden wrote: Thanks all! We're working on getting in touch with someone from the module manufacturer who can tell us something substantive before proceeding. Best, Louis On 6/4/14, 11:33 AM, Ray Walters wrote: The sooner you get started, the easier it is to get off. The paint is still c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Walters
rands. Is this a possible solution? Thanks Ray for bringing up a question I forgot to consider. William Miller Solar On Apr 29, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi All; In order to avoid any of my work showing up in someone's slideshow of horrors, I'm trying to find the corr

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV direct to a 230Vac pump?

2014-06-17 Thread Ray Walters
The Franklin SolarPak uses a standard AC motor and pump down hole, and a special inverter/ controller above ground for array direct operation. The pump is 3 phase though. You didn't mention phase, but I'm guessing yours is not 3 phase. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Insta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shattered Evergreen ES-160-SL Module, DPW TOP rack

2014-06-21 Thread Ray Walters
As noted in the previous case, the shattered module is on the bottom corner. Those are the most vulnerable to damage from animals, kids, vehicles, etc. The tempered glass always shatters as you described, when enough force is applied. Look very closely for some slight bending of the frame w

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI disturbances. wire nuts

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I just came back from a call back on a system we did last year. Problem? Bad wire nut connection on the AC side. It it was a pump, so it took several amps. I still agree with August though, its not the wire nut; its not doing the connection right. This particular connection did not have enough

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI disturbances. wire nuts

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I've had butt splices fail, due to a ratchet release type crimper that didn't pinch the wires tight enough. I now use a good old Klein crimper that puts a big indent on one side. The problem with this however, is that it damages the built in insulation. My favorite butt splice is uninsulated,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Split bolt

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I also quit doing split bolts, after I had one on an array that wasn't tightened enough, and it got hot melted the tape. I found it looking for a 3 v drop. Not only are they hard and time consuming to tape, you can't check them later either for voltage or tightness. I've use both the piercing

Re: [RE-wrenches] No toxic sealant

2014-06-26 Thread Ray Walters
Butyl tape is what we used for decades on rain catch systems.Check with the Earth ship folks at Greater World, they're all over the details on rain catch systems. http://earthship.com/community R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum and Pumps

2014-07-03 Thread Ray Walters
Based on many successful installs, I'd say a 3/4 HP pump is not a problem at all, and that the Magnum could easily run a 1-1/2 HP submersible pump. 2 HP probably, but that's where you start worrying. The Franklin Subpak controller can be used on regular AC pumps and not only offers constant pre

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island retrofit

2014-07-03 Thread Ray Walters
A 60 amp continuously rated AC breaker is what is actually being used in the UL listed E Panel from Midnite. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 7/3/2014 9:01 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: Mac, Be car

Re: [RE-wrenches] Arc Flash Training

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
I took an 8 hr Arc Flash Hazard Analysis Training course from HP&P Safety here in Colorado. I'm sure there are quite a few places that offer this. Its a standard course. Basically after you watch enough video of folks getting blown up, you start rethinking your approach to opening any live boxe

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
HUPs are 6 individual cells in a heavy steel case. The individual cells can be removed without welding lead, and they have a warranty of10 years, 2100 cycles to 80% DOD. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-87

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
I All, I'm sorry I was unclear on my question. I am looking for individual steel cased 2v industrial batteries, not 12v or 24v packs. thanks jay ps thanks chris. On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Ray Walters wrote: HUPs are 6 individual cells in a heavy steel case. The individual cells can b

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Ray Walters
I put the batteries into a 30 " deep ground vault when possible. Earth temperature is much more stable. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 7/12/2014 7:13 AM, jay peltz wrote: Hi all Yes good points

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gin Pole

2014-07-30 Thread Ray Walters
Everyone is on point with this. This is probably the more dangerous work I've ever done. You need a truck with a good winch too, along with pulleys and attachment gear. The gin pole is probably there; it usually isn't removed. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Li

Re: [RE-wrenches] UPS disturbance with SMA Inverters

2014-08-04 Thread Ray Walters
Is it possible that the inverters are raising line voltage high enough to make the UPS respond by clicking, but not high enough to have them actually trip? I'm not familiar enough with UPS control structure, but it might run a quick test (the click) when the voltage gets close to its high volt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Changing from 2 battery cable setup to single cable for Outback?

2014-08-09 Thread Ray Walters
Midnite makes several good things for this situation, including their E Panel for the Radian, which I'm sure is better than Outback's version. They also have low cost AC bypass switch assemblies, and I've recently used their PV Combiner boxes for AC distribution with AC rated DIN rail mountable

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM discrepancy

2014-08-15 Thread Ray Walters
I'd second that. Let somebody with a 12 v system play with the pair of gray ones. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 8/15/2014 5:19 PM, m...@hurshtown.com wrote: I would send them back. If used, I w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fan Controller

2014-08-20 Thread Ray Walters
The same PWM control used on charge controllers is also used on electric vehicles for DC motors. We've done many different ones and different voltages and sizes. Something like this might work: http://www.electricscooterparts.com/speedcontrollers24volt.html R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabc

[RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-20 Thread Ray Walters
Greetings fellow Wrenches; I have a customer that just purchased some Sunpower E20 -435 modules somehow from Ebay, and wants me to design a backup power system for him. This system would be battery based and not be grid tied. SO the question is: has Sunpower put to rest the positive grounding

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
sts.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:47 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid? Greetings fellow Wrenches; I have a customer that just purchased some Sunpower E20 -435 modules somehow from Ebay, and wants me to design a backup pow

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
grid customers in Mexico that want cheap but high performance PV solar power. That’s all... Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Greetings fellow Wrenches; I have a customer that just purchased some Sunpower E20 -435 modules somehow from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Assembly Protects Conductors?

2014-08-22 Thread Ray Walters
Most combiner boxes, DC rated breakers, and DC rated fuses and fuse holders we use today, qualify as assemblies for the 100% exception (Outback, Midnite, etc.) so you only have to size the OCP by 125% of short circuit current rating for edge of cloud effects. Since the conductor is sized bas

Re: [RE-wrenches] Assembly Protects Conductors?

2014-08-23 Thread Ray Walters
oint of this exception is to allow cost savings by allow assemblies and OCP devices with lower ratings. The exception does not apply to every element of the circuit (the conductors) but only to the 100% rated assemblies and OCP themselves. What am I missing? Thanks, Mark On 8/22/2014 6:14 P

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters Maximum Input Ratings

2014-08-26 Thread Ray Walters
Th one factor I don't think any of us have enough info on yet is the reduced lifespan of the inverter. Heat kills electronics, and an inverter that is running at max capacity more of the time will be running hotter. The MTBF (mean time between failures) is only going to get worse at higher hea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown questions

2014-08-28 Thread Ray Walters
So this would make sense that this Rapid Shut down provision would cover all generator backup systems too, not just solar. Considering auto start backup generators have been around for many decades, I have a few questions: 1) Does NEC 2014 require Rapid shutdown for all generator systems, or is

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV panel backing

2014-09-01 Thread Ray Walters
I've done patch jobs on little 12 v systems, and had them hold up for many years, but I concur, I wouldn't try that at higher PV voltages. Silicon sealant actually is slightly conductive, at least according to other Wrenches when this subject came up several years back. R.Ray Walters CTO, Sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy sold to tax dodger

2014-09-07 Thread Ray Walters
Dang, I was just shifting my off grid projects over to predominantly Magnum... First Trace went to the darkside with Xantrex, then Outback started hiring "no experience necessary" tech support personnel, and now Magnum gets gobbled up. Where is an aging off grid installer to turn to? Start

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy sold to tax dodger

2014-09-07 Thread Ray Walters
While I'm proud that our country has strived to protect worker's rights with Unions, OSHA, Worker's Comp, and minimum wage, the reality is that small employers like my business are faced with an ever rising hurdle to actually "create jobs". It IS much easier to buy a gadget, tool, etc., or su

Re: [RE-wrenches] Poletop rack with easy tilt change...anybody got that?

2014-09-08 Thread Ray Walters
We've also added a tractor type turnbuckle to the DPW racks that allows the tilt adjust without taking loose the array. As others noted, the Top of Pole mounts are usually center balanced, so the tilt adjust is fairly easy, but wind can certainly grab the array while its loose, and cause trouble

Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4

2014-09-16 Thread Ray Walters
I think if we started over fresh with our lead acid battery system designs, we would find we should have the same Battery management system requirements that you have mentioned. Those are all problems that plague lead acid as well. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Watsun problem

2014-09-22 Thread Ray Walters
Sounds like you are driving it too far to the East. You may need to rotate the tracker on the pole towards the east, and then reset the limit switches. Also, don't have the limits more than 180 degrees total, or you start asking for trouble. It can try to do the morning reset back around to t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Modules over vents

2014-09-24 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Kurt: you need a licensed plumber in your area to advise you, if you're trying to keep the AHJs happy . 2nd, I'm very sure you don't want an exhaust/ combustion type vent under the array. I've had several over the years, and seen some arrays installed over them. They can get fair

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Array Definition and 690.47(D) (2008)

2014-09-29 Thread Ray Walters
Definitely could use some clarification. The 690 definition of an array says "mechanically integrated", which sort of implies each roof plane is its own array. However in terms of actual PV design terminology, each PV system has only one array which may consist of many subarrays. Even a 25 MW p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Metering

2014-09-29 Thread Ray Walters
The 2nd problem with the Envoy besides cost is that it isn't always reliable.Communication through power lines is not a new or fresh idea, and has Always been problematic. Once you install something you are expected to make it work, and that can be a nightmare on say an 8 module system tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Quantifying power quality

2014-10-12 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Dan; I, like Larry, must be amazingly lucky then, because we've solved power quality issues for many years with 50mf caps. Usually, its been front loading washers not running on Trace SW inverters, but also Grundfos CP pumps, too. Never had a problem, and some of these have been running

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid

2014-10-21 Thread Ray Walters
The Outback is not a perfect Sinewave. It still has tiny steps in the wave, and when electronics have a problem, its usually with the wave form as it crosses zero voltage . Instead of being instantaneous, it has a few milliseconds of time the wave is at the zero crossing, which can drive some

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid

2014-10-22 Thread Ray Walters
k with another model and/or brand. Dan ------------ On Tue, 10/21/14, Ray Walters wrote: Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2014, 12:23 PM The Outback is not a perfect Sinewave. It still has ti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Pathfinder vs. Suneye

2014-10-28 Thread Ray Walters
I've not done a side by side comparison, but the Pathfinder seems to be slightly conservative, especially depending on which latitude sheet you are using. I sometimes switch sheets and try both, when the latitude is close to falling between (ie 37 deg, and there is 37 to 43 sheet or a 31 to 37

Re: [RE-wrenches] Passive Battery Venting

2014-10-28 Thread Ray Walters
That's an interesting idea, but all the failed designs they illustrate don't show the way we usually do it. We don't even bother with an inlet, as most battery boxes have enough gap around the door to provide intake air, then the exhaust comes off the top with several feet of rise to prevent b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Passive Battery Venting

2014-10-28 Thread Ray Walters
That's why we usually have the batteries in a garage, basement, or out building that is not open to the living space. I've seen some cases of very well sealed and insulated enclosures allowing batteries to over heat, and also build up a lot of acid damaged connections. Boxes I've seen with more

Re: [RE-wrenches] Mitsubishi Mini Split fighting with Outback VFX Off Grid

2014-12-01 Thread Ray Walters
Have you tried it without the balancing transformer? You described that the voltage waveform looked good, but the current waveform had distortion. I would take the X 240 out of the system, and see what happens. I hardly ever use the balancing transformers, and I never let the inverters go in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Appliances for off-grid home

2014-12-01 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Jerry; I quit trying to be an appliance salesman in the 90s. Just go Energy star and add more panels and batteries. The damn inverters no load draw is actually one of the bigger problems; a pair of Outbacks is about equal to a full size fridge. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] common ground on fm80 aux output?

2014-12-05 Thread Ray Walters
I don't believe the aux is PWM. It should be a straight 12 v 200 mA output as I recall. Its just enough to run a battery fan, or a 12 v relay. You shouldn't need anything else. Being current limited, it doesn't even need a fuse. Also you need to run both leads (pos and neg) from the aux outp

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE; SW4024's were off grid, now on grid AC2 Controls?

2014-12-15 Thread Ray Walters
What you want is already programmed into the inverter. It's called Low Battery Transfer mode (LBX), its just a program setting on the inverter. You select this mode in Menu 9, and then its actual battery voltage settings are in Menu 16. It will not sell back in this mode, but fromHome Power Ma

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum System - Discharged Battery Bank

2014-12-17 Thread Ray Walters
I've never seen an inverter not disconnect on low voltage. My understanding is that they just can't operate below a certain threshold. However, I have seen behavior as described caused by DC loads that did not have a LVD in place. Were there any other DC connections to the battery bank besides

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum System - Discharged Battery Bank

2014-12-19 Thread Ray Walters
When I had batteries reverse polarity they quickly turned around but never had their capacity after. 2nd, that is a clear indication of a DC drain that can kept draining all the way to zero. The strongest batteries keep giving voltage, while weaker batteries give all they have and become resist

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum System - Discharged Battery Bank

2014-12-19 Thread Ray Walters
I have only seen this in cases with DC loads and no LVD. Inverter systems without DC loads would never exhibit this behavior, unless there was a short in the battery cabling or bad cells. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design E

Re: [RE-wrenches] Small Exterior Weather Proof Battery Boxes

2014-12-23 Thread Ray Walters
For small projects like that with sealed batteries, I just use a 12x12 x 6 NEMA 3R box. I build a little 1" foam board box around the battery. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 12/23/2014 3:11 AM, To

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire sizing question

2015-01-02 Thread Ray Walters
We just always use 4/0 X flex cable with a 250 amp breaker, and call it good. (2/0 with a 175 A breaker) If you want to make life really hard, you can look at the trip curve of the breaker (Heinnemans have 3 different trip curves depending on the model I believe) and then do all the normal NEC

Re: [RE-wrenches] wire sizing question

2015-01-02 Thread Ray Walters
Some other things: If you keep the conduit less than 24" long, which is recommended anyway for main battery connections, the conduit fill requirements don't apply. (see exception: 310.15(B)3a2) Using table 310.15(B)16 yeilds 230 amps for 4/0 at 75 C. Then 240.6 lists 250 amp as the next standa

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24V Zephyr Vent Fan from a Magnum MS4024PAE inverter

2015-01-07 Thread Ray Walters
The Magnums do not have relays available like the old SWs, but you can run a Zephyr directly from either a Outback FM controller or a Midnite Classic. Both have a controlled 200 mA, 12 output. I've had occasional trouble running the Zephyr because as weird as this sounds: the fan can have a s

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24V Zephyr Vent Fan from a Magnum MS4024PAE inverter

2015-01-08 Thread Ray Walters
Interesting but the price puts higher than a Zephyr and a Solar Converters Simple Switch, which is about the same thing with a backdraft preventer. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 1/8/2015 5:39 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fall Protection Equipment

2015-01-17 Thread Ray Walters
I prefer climbing gear as its much lighter weight and doesn't drag you around. I actually think in some cases that traditional fall protection gear can be more of a tripping hazard than the safety it provides. However, I was previously under the impression that if OSHA (or in the islands: HI

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fall Protection Equipment

2015-01-18 Thread Ray Walters
rovide that. William On Jan 17, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: I prefer climbing gear as its much lighter weight and doesn't drag you around. I actually think in some cases that traditional fall protection gear can be more of a tripping haz

Re: [RE-wrenches] circuit breaker for SW5548

2015-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
Try Mouser electronics. Otherwise, I'd consider bypassing it, and have a regular breaker (30 or 40 amp) on theout put. The tripping was probably because the breaker was malfunctioning. Usually the SWs will trip their on board computer to shutdown for over current, and the breaker should never b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Inverter Replacement Questions

2015-01-30 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Allan; You didn't mention the DC load center used, but that would effect the decision, as well as the relative wall space. I've found customers were very happy with an E Panel setup, as they gained floor/ wall space with the upgrade as well. I'm tired of still working in old Trace DC 250

Re: [RE-wrenches] How Is Rapid Shut-Down Not A Farse...

2015-02-05 Thread Ray Walters
Solar is just one tiny little issue that fire fighters have to face. There's no placard for 5 gal propane bottles stored in the basement. I'm glad we're looking to make firefighters safer, but this has really gotten a bit out of control. Whatever is planned for 2017, I hope there are some sensibl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cable crimper question

2015-02-06 Thread Ray Walters
I haven't used that type, because that type of die doesn't work well with the thin battery lugs we use for off grid battery cables. Seems better for the heavy cast lugs. I currently have a type that makes a crimp similar to the hammer type crimpers: an indentation on one side and V on the other

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Failure and various related issues

2015-02-11 Thread Ray Walters
Hi William; Yes I'm getting too old to let manufacturers off the hook anymore. They just don't pay me enough (wink, maybe if I ever was compensated for service calls?) Unfortunately I have had the exact same experience with SMA's phone tech support. I was having setup issues that were not co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid Alarm

2015-02-12 Thread Ray Walters
We looked into this recently as well, and didn't find any good options that didn't involve us making a custom gizmo of some type. The closest off the shelf product I found was just an AC smoke alarm that chirps when it loses AC. I think some of the little UPS boxes also have an alarm when th

Re: [RE-wrenches] older magnum MS

2015-02-14 Thread Ray Walters
I know we beat this earlier on the thread, but I had similar problems with SW inverters back in the day, that were fixed with a 50 mF cap. Reread that whole throead as there were definitely potential problems associated with that fix, but we found it worked fine, and never had any other issues

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunwize or industrial PV modules

2015-02-24 Thread Ray Walters
Where do you get the Solarworld small modules from? I haven't seen those in a very long time. AEE is carrying Dasol 12 v modules, from 20 w up to 135 w. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/24/2015 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chofu Hot Tub Heater

2015-03-03 Thread Ray Walters
I think the jet tub is the better way to go for off grid. You are only heating the water and running the circ pumps a few hours/ week, and as Bill mentioned: no chemicals. I've tried all of the choices, and while hot water alone is nice, having the massage bubblers is definitely better. Not ha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chofu Hot Tub Heater

2015-03-04 Thread Ray Walters
abcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/3/2015 4:33 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray: Nothing is more civilized than heated flush water! William On Mar 3, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: I thi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar cooker plans request

2015-03-12 Thread Ray Walters
I recall seeing simple cardboard box models being demonstrated by NMSEA at Solar Fest. They would get to about 275 F, while their huge trailer mounted mirror device got to about 325F, as I recall. The main flaw in all solar cookers is no backup source of heat, so that if it gets cloudy, etc.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load testing Lithium battery bank

2015-03-17 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Larry, I think you hit on the best load already: water heater elements rated for 120 v. We have also used dump loads for wind turbines like the air heating elements from Bergey, but they are only about 1 kW each. Another possible source are the resistor banks for old golf carts (before t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load testing Lithium battery bank

2015-03-17 Thread Ray Walters
to do some welding. Thank you, Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On 3/17/15 11:59 AM, Ray Walters wrote: Hi Larry, I think you hit on the best load already: water heater elements rated for 120 v. We have also used dump loads for wind turbines like the air heating elements from Bergey

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load testing Lithium battery bank

2015-03-17 Thread Ray Walters
Hi James; So couldn't Larry weld in rigid conduit fittings? Aren't they NPSM, or do I have that wrong? I suppose the Zinc plating would make a messier weld and possibly be poisonous Also to Chris Mason, I was not aware that load banks were available for rent. That sounds like a good op

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback radian question

2015-03-19 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Kevin; I have both a comment and a question: Comment) I thought that while charging, the AC loads were simply powered directly by the generator, and the inverters were operating strictly as chargers. My experience is that it is almost always an issue of poor waveform regulation with the g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Using a Midnite Classic for Hydro

2015-03-19 Thread Ray Walters
I'm sure somebody more knowledgable already mentioned this, but back in the last century, when wiring up C40 charge controllers for micro hydro, they were wired between the battery and the dump load, not between the hydro unit and the batteries. Basically the turbine ran fully loaded all the t

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback radian question

2015-03-20 Thread Ray Walters
were immediately and permanently solved by replacing the inverter with another brand. It certainly jaded my opinion of Outback as we had to replace several systems at our cost. Kevin -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of Ray

Re: [RE-wrenches] outback radian question

2015-03-20 Thread Ray Walters
etter capacity. Can't think of a single issue where Magnums exhibited any of the same problems. Replaced inverters, problem solved and then moved onto other tasks. Kevin -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of Ray Walters S

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging Multiple Battery Banks

2015-03-24 Thread Ray Walters
What's the reasoning behind two different battery banks at different voltages? What is the other equipment involved: batteries type, age, inverters, etc.? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/24/2015

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging Multiple Battery Banks

2015-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
48v setup with dual outback inverters and dual SB3048 CCs. Lead acid batteries as well. 3 years old I've never had this come up in 16 years! Jeremy Rodriguez All Solar, Inc. 1463 M Penrose Colorado 81240 Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand! On Mar 24, 2015,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Xantrex SW 4048 inverter and Frigidaire

2015-03-27 Thread Ray Walters
Also, the Frigidaire washer is really delicate; I had one cooking controls every year as described, and it was On Grid. The solution there was to put it on an Outback backup power supply, as the grid was often out of voltage specs. Another thing I saw once with the SW inverters is they can par

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tilt Racking vs. Roof Mount for Shedding snow

2015-03-27 Thread Ray Walters
This has been an issue on some of our systems, but strangely not most of them. I have not figured out a correlation yet. We have dozens of pole mount and roof systems that shed snow as soon as the sun comes out, and then some that ice up and are a real mess all winter. The only difference I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Acid containment

2015-03-30 Thread Ray Walters
We have used the underlayment material to line battery boxes. Turns out it gets eaten by the acid too, not recommended. Really the best product I've ever used is just the heavy plastic sheeting to line the inside of the box. I had batteries crack and leak acid almost 2 inches deep, and the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Acid containment

2015-03-30 Thread Ray Walters
Acid will eat spray on bed liner too R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/30/2015 10:36 AM, Benn Kilburn wrote: Hi Bill, Think "spray-on". Build your box then spray on the liner. Have you seen "spray

Re: [RE-wrenches] Question on Back up generators

2015-04-09 Thread Ray Walters
I used an Ecogen recently, and I liked many aspects of it. However the continuous draw of the on board electronics is just ridiculous for an off grid generator. A 15 w solar module charging the start battery was barely able to keep up with the draw. Running AC off the inverter to the generator

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