Re: [RE-wrenches] Very small PV systems for surveillance or other"micro" loads

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
tting in the dark later. Ray If a client does not want to do this process, I generally pass on the job. From experience the client who is unwilling to do proper load analysis is the first to threaten legal when it doesn't work. Many times years later they come back with tail between leg

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 2014 690.12 Rapid Shutdown

2014-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Brian; Invoking 90.4 is a decent idea; the only problem is those smarty pants over at Midnite have been working on their Birdhouse disconnect system for several years already in anticipation of this requirement. I'm not up on all of this (still waiting for my copy of the 2014 Handbook) bu

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2014-01-23 Thread Ray Walters
I must jump on my soap box, as I have so many time in the past, and follow up Glenn's comment here. We worry so much about details of PV arrays, while batteries are serious safety hazards that no one (including the NEC) ever wants to address. Not only can they not be de-energized, they have a

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2014-01-23 Thread Ray Walters
ed? Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Bill Brooks <mailto:billbroo...@yahoo.com>> wrote: Jeffrey and Ray,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Static shock

2014-01-25 Thread Ray Walters
I've heard that the entire array can build a surface static charge, though I don't recall getting zapped by the array. Seems like better grounding would take care of that. I get popped touching ungrounded metal like my truck. It can be very alarming, much more voltage than you might expect. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules

2014-01-30 Thread Ray Walters
No suggestions on modules, but possibly you could swap all the good modules onto 2 poles, and modify the 3rd rack to hold a set of all newer modules? I just sold a customer a bunch of Solar World 270s, to replace dead Astro Power modules on Wattsun racks. They went for a total square footage tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off grid heat pumps

2014-02-04 Thread Ray Walters
I'd 2nd Hilton's comments. Energy efficiency can reduce heating loads to almost nothing. The German standard "passive solar" design uses almost R100 insulation, triple pane Lo E windows, doors with multiple seals, and are so tight they require an air to air heat exchanger to insure fresh air.

Re: [RE-wrenches] SnapNrack

2014-02-05 Thread Ray Walters
Good point, Jason. I like Snap N Rack's products, but when I tried to order equipment (no distributors carry their stuff in Colorado) they never returned my calls or emails. I'd certainly be wary of their future support, if they won't even return calls for sales. Frankly I'm going to start

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery venting issue

2014-02-05 Thread Ray Walters
I can give you one example for them to consider: UPS systems. They all use sealed VRLA batteries, and are not vented to the outside. 2nd thing for them to chew on: The Midnite Battery boxes are ETL listed, and you are installing them to the manufacturer's recommendations. 3rd, your use of arti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-06 Thread Ray Walters
We use Anti- Seize Lubricant made by Permalex. I get it at the auto parts store. I have an 8 oz. bottle with built in brush on applicator. Definitely recommended on all SS hardware. I took apart another installer5's rack to add modules, and half the bolts were ruined and had to be replaced. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Subject: Re: Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-06 Thread Ray Walters
1 PM, Chris Mason mailto:cometenergysyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: Probably Permatex. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Ray Walters mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: We use Anti- Seize Lubricant made by Permalex. I get it at the auto parts store. I have an 8 oz. bottle w

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I started using automotive SAE rated resettable circuit breakers like these: http://www.delcity.net/store/Hi!Amp-Surface-Mount-!-%3Cbr%3EManual-Reset-%28Switchable%29/p_193073 I'm only using these on smaller stand alone (non NEC) off grid systems, but they are sealed, and allow protection right a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-07 Thread Ray Walters
I'm working on something similar. I think the Flex 1000 is the only reasonable choice that can handle more than 2 of the large format DC breakers. Midnite has the more expensive MNBCB -1000 Battery Combiner box, but there just isn't enough documentation to figure out what it can and can't do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-09 Thread Ray Walters
Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/8/2014 6:59 AM, Richard L Ratico wrote: Ray, Way back in 2002, you mentioned using Boltswitch products for battery string fusing immediately outside the battery box. Might one of these be a partial solution for William? Dick Ratico Solarwind Electric

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island Battery Disconnects

2014-02-10 Thread Ray Walters
pick bulletins 129, 130, and 130 A those are the sizes most of us will be interested in. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/9/2014 2:26 PM, Ray Walters wrote: Here's the spec sheet on the 400 am

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-11 Thread Ray Walters
Boltswitch used to make pullout discos for the smaller R fuses too. You can use them, but they are a time delay fuse, so you need to look at trip curves for sizing (don't just substitute the same amp rated RK5 for a T) The R fuses are physically much larger, and are rated to 300 vdc, class T t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Long transmission line inductance and LED light flicker

2014-02-12 Thread Ray Walters
I just had an idea on this situation from August's comment. I'm sure you've checked already, but are you sure that ground and neutral aren't bonded in both locations, causing current to flow through the ground system? I've seen many multiple building properties inadvertently send both a ground

[RE-wrenches] Computer Interfaces (was: morning star ts-mppt-60-600)

2014-02-12 Thread Ray Walters
The Midnite Classic can be set with the onboard screen, and the Classic Lite can be set with dip switches, but I actually prefer to pull both up on the router in Windows. The software finds any Classics connected in a few seconds, and its much easier to navigate and check all the settings in a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Firefly Batteries

2014-02-14 Thread Ray Walters
1000 cycles at 80% DOD for a small format sealed battery is impressive. It all gets down to what they cost, and if they really live up to those numbers in the real world. It also looks like they only have a group 31 sized 12 volt model, so that limits their use to smaller GTB installations mo

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Back feed from Radian.

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
Alot of these generator setups need 2 regulators, so usually the regular one stays at the tank, size the pipe for the flow rate ( just like wire and amps;-) .) and put the 2nd regulator right at the generator. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master E

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Back feed from Radian.

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
: to further complicate things, i have seen "regulator oscillation" problems with 2 in series. todd On Monday, February 17, 2014 2:30pm, "Ray Walters" said: Alot of these generator setups need 2 regulators, so usually the regular one stays at the tank, size the pi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Midnite solar Charge controllers

2014-02-17 Thread Ray Walters
Volatile memory was a pet peeve of mine with the Trace SW inverters. I quit even trying to program them, because they would always end up getting reset anyway. However, I've tested this feature on the Midnite Classics and I could not get them to drop programming. I used the computer app, set

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Walters
We've done some research on this, as we're doing an XL.1 project at 12 v right now. I don't have first hand experience with the Clipper yet, but I have over a decade of XL.1 experience and many years with Midnite's electronics. The Clipper is exactly what is needed. It also moves the rectifier

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bergey Excel 1 wind generator issues

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Walters
thout dropping the tower...h, time to sleep. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/19/2014 7:56 PM, All Solar, Inc. wrote: Ray, Are you referring to Midnite's wind turbine control box,

Re: [RE-wrenches] controllers

2014-02-20 Thread Ray Walters
I agree that middle point is tough. I actually still use PWM for small stuff, when I can find reasonably priced 12 v modules. I use the Blue Sky 30 amp PWM. I'm testing a Midnite Kid right now that will probably fit the bill. Also they're new Whizbang Jr can work with all their controllers an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium ion

2014-02-27 Thread Ray Walters
Here's a supplier of mine in the Electric Vehicle world where Li+ is becoming the go to battery choice because of the higher energy density. http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/batteries-ev/lithium-ion-ev.html I'm still talking customers out of Li+ for solar, because of the cost and charging issues

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium ion

2014-02-27 Thread Ray Walters
Larry; You mentioned you tested CALB batteries; what was your experience with them? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 2/27/2014 4:44 PM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Jay,

Re: [RE-wrenches] conductors and the 120% rule

2014-03-04 Thread Ray Walters
What is the length of the conduit to the subpanel? That will determine whether to apply the derates. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/4/2014 1:34 PM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] "Extra Low Voltage"

2014-03-06 Thread Ray Walters
New Mexico used to have a low voltage electrician. It was for communications guys, and was limited to under 50 v. Actually pretty useless, since most systems had inverters. Also it wasn't that much harder to just get a regular electrical license. Also, some considered even 24 v systems to be ov

Re: [RE-wrenches] Polar Power

2014-03-10 Thread Ray Walters
I've got one customer that has one, they're pricey, but seem well made. They had quite a few problems and are going to a regular AC generator setup and decent inverter/ charger. The off grid solar biz has tried DC gen sets several times, and it has never worked out. The theoretical gain in ef

Re: [RE-wrenches] Huge battery bank recommendation

2014-03-11 Thread Ray Walters
Consider the HUP Solar One battery, the 125-33. It has 2490 AH at the 20 hr rate. The warranty is for 2100 cycles to 80% DOD. Also most of the jumpers are included (bus bars within each 12 v group) We've had nothing but happy customers since we started using the HUPs. R.Ray Walters CTO, Sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Huge battery bank recommendation

2014-03-11 Thread Ray Walters
wable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com <http://www.oregonsolarworks.com> 541-218-0201 m 541-299-0402 o On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote: Consider the HUP Solar One battery, the 125-33. It has 2490 AH at the 20 hr rate.

Re: [RE-wrenches] GB Industrial Batteries

2014-03-12 Thread Ray Walters
Check the specs carefully, I had a customer looking at the GBs, and the amp hr rating was suspicious, seems like they were claiming a much a higher AH per lb than other lead acid batteries. Also they had verbally told the customer a higher cycle life than what was listed in the actual warranty

Re: [RE-wrenches] Autocad

2014-03-12 Thread Ray Walters
I use Turbocad,  it can open Autocad files, and is much more affordable.  Seems to work well. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/12/2014 5:16 PM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:

[RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-24 Thread Ray Walters
Hi All; I'm exploring options for an off grid project with an existing 30 Kw Kohler wired for 208 vac 3 phase. The generator runs some 8 hp air compressors, so rewiring it is not an option. We're primarily interested in reducing gen run time from the current situation: 14 hrs/ day. So far, o

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-24 Thread Ray Walters
sed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/24/2014 8:58 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray Sunny Island or XW. Wm -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters Sent: Monday, March 24,

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
illersolar.com wrote: Ray: Sunny Islands being discontinued: Did not know that! XW inverters: Not impressed and have had mixed results. I have resolved most issues but dealt with glitchy, overcomplicated software and firmware. Some are reluctant to connect to generators and earlier fir

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/25/2014 4:21 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote: Hi Ray, I have several 3-phase off-grid inverter/battery/generator systems out there. - SMA Sunny Island is the best. Can scale to at least 180 kW, maybe

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
ay will be on the garage roof, with equipment below. Only 50 ft run for the PV, so I was planning on using Midnite Classics. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/25/2014 4:21 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
ning kicks on... R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/25/2014 8:53 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray: I went through the same set of mental Q&A you are when I was exposed to my first AC coupled sys

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-25 Thread Ray Walters
x27;ll hit up the folks at SMA, as I think that SIs will be in the mix in some fashion. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 3/25/2014 10:08 PM, Kevin Pegg wrote: Hi Ray, Suggest you give the techs a

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-26 Thread Ray Walters
/2014 7:31 AM, Phil Undercuffler wrote: You mentioned this is out of the country -- is it 230v line to neutral, or 120/208? OutBack's export Radian can do three phase, up to 72kW continuous. HTH, Phil On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> w

Re: [RE-wrenches] 208 3 phase Off Grid Inverter

2014-03-26 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Bob; This sounds like once again Midnite is solving my problems, before I even know I have them. Can your interface work directly with the SI, or does it require the Sunny Web box, too? Also, is Midnite's Whizbang Jr. shunt sensing usable in this, or do you just defer to the SI's current s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Oddball pumping question

2014-03-27 Thread Ray Walters
First look at what his actual pumping needs are, and come up with a more efficient way to provide the water. I just got back tonight from changing out hydronic circulators for a customer with new Hi Efficiency brushless ECM models. I was able to cut the watt draw by 65%. Also, its very possible

Re: [RE-wrenches] Well pump relay question

2014-04-09 Thread Ray Walters
I've had the contacts arc and not disconnect at 144 vdc. I used a modified relay from an electric vehicle company: KTA services. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/4/2014 7:06 AM, Michael Morningst

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-11 Thread Ray Walters
It definitely depends on the flashing. The Oatey type with the rubber gasket die after several years, and leak. For our installations, it really depends on the roof. In some cases with metal roofs, a flashing can't really have the overlap needed, and so it just becomes a big gooed on L foot rea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request

2014-04-13 Thread Ray Walters
Hi Allan; Sounds like a great presentation, that I would want most customers to see before even talking to them. One thing you that might already be covering: Now that PV modules are so cheap, many people are assuming a quality installed system goes for $1/ watt. I have to bust the myth ever

Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request

2014-04-13 Thread Ray Walters
I'm game: let's do it. I was just at Home Depot this weekend talking about male male extension cords.. Ray I also admit to, when in a whimsical mood, asking staff at Home Depot / Ace hardware etc., how to make up a male to male extension cord so my Honda generator can run my h

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again (is sealant code defensible?)

2014-04-14 Thread Ray Walters
 Hi Glenn; How do you and the roofers deal with Propanel steel roofs? That's hundreds of penetrations for the screws, with no flashings, and they depend on just a little rubber gasket.  Or how about the lead head nails on a corrugated metal roof?  Roofers t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase monitoring picking up other systems

2014-04-14 Thread Ray Walters
Funny the timing of the Wrenches list, just Saturday I added some Enphase inverters to an existing GTB Outback system. The Enphase are not AC coupled to the Outbacks, as I didn't want to get into the battery charging issues, and the customer has plenty of PV relative to the battery size. Howe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashing vs Sealant... again

2014-04-16 Thread Ray Walters
On 4/16/2014 9:52 AM, d...@energysolarnow.com wrote: As Ray Walters wrote, L feet installed with the correct sealant have lasted as long as the comp roofs they're on. As can be seen in the attached pictures of L-feet on a roof that I will soon be repairing, the wrong sealant eventually s

[RE-wrenches] Franklin Subdrive SolarPAK

2014-04-18 Thread Ray Walters
HI All; Anyone have any experience with Franklin Electric's new Subdrive SolarPAK submersible pumps? They're showing 1.5 and 3 Hp options. Its a 3 phase motor powered by an above ground VSD type controller that allows for array direct pumping. This particular project needs about 10,000 GPD

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World shattered module

2014-04-21 Thread Ray Walters
The bottom corner modules are the likeliest to be damaged by somebody or something moving past the array. I'd check for any damage on the edge of the frame. I had kids run a vehicle into a pole mounted array once. No one would cop to it, but I found the matching damage on the roll cage of the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wrong title on my inquiry ... Charge Controller Question!

2014-04-22 Thread Ray Walters
Charge controller failure = system failure = customer sitting in the dark off grid. I would only use proven, UL listed equipment. Those are ridiculous current ratings. You would need to wire that with 500 MCM cable. If you look, you'll notice reputable brands like Midnite Solar, Outback, and B

Re: [RE-wrenches] (no subject)

2014-04-28 Thread Ray Walters
Interesting so does "require a tool" include taking a screw off the cover plate of the combiner box, too? What a game changer. I'm going to Mexico for my next project; I'll actually enjoy even more being the sole AHJ on the project. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian picture

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
Lerner wrote: Hello Ray, I teach a 4 day class for Outback, mostly for installers and distributers. Could I use that picture you just posted on the Wrenches list, with credit to you (or not) as an example of how to not hook them up? I mention in the class how although it is possible to hook

Re: [RE-wrenches] Article 690, or The Haves Vs. Have Nots

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
secured by removable fasteners and connected by a flexible wiring system. This is not a change. Please help me understand the concern. Bill Brooks. *From:*re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Ray Walters *Sent:* Monday,

[RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-04-29 Thread Ray Walters
Hi All; In order to avoid any of my work showing up in someone's slideshow of horrors, I'm trying to find the correct way to wire 3 Sunny Islands with Cobra X flex cable. While it doesn't actually mention it in the SMA manual, a call to SMA tech support confirmed my suspicions: the DC lugs in

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
I get my cable and lugs from Quick Cable but I could not find the fine strand UL listing. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 8:09 AM, jay peltz wrote: Hi ray As an FYI. Most of the lugs

[RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
ant installation (per 110.3(B)). -Glenn -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jay peltz Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:09 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connec

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
aster Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 12:25 PM, William Miller wrote: Ray: Thanks for sharing the research. If you could forward to me of-line an email contact and part number I need to order for 4/0. Miller Solar On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Ray Walters <

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
4/30/2014 12:56 PM, Dave Click wrote: This may be useful: http://www.cobrawire.com/lugs/lugs.php?cat=xflex On 2014/4/30, 14:25, William Miller wrote: Ray: Thanks for sharing the research. If you could forward to me of-line an email contact and part number I need to order for 4/0. Miller Sola

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Ray Walters
Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 1:29 PM, Phil Forest wrote: We use ferrules for fine stranded wire at terminals. Www.ferrulesdirect has it all. Phil Forest South Mountain Company On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarra

Re: [RE-wrenches] Low flow high head pump

2014-05-07 Thread Ray Walters
I've used Solamotor Jack pumps for that application. Excellent product with good support. http://www.solamotor.com/ R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 5/6/2014 6:07 PM, All Solar, Inc. wrote: Hi all

Re: [RE-wrenches] Small pump in larger casing

2014-05-09 Thread Ray Walters
I agree with Bob-O, no torque arrestor is needed. We've hung small submersibles in hand dug wells 5 ft in diameter. You can actually hang several pumps, as long as you keep them from knocking into each other on installation. The pump does not move around like you might think, something is w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarups by Trace

2014-05-12 Thread Ray Walters
Funny, I'm working on one of those right now. We're pulling it all out and putting in Outback inverters. Those were legal to grid tie in the day, but they're at least 10 years behind on complying with UL 1741. No way you could use it in a new system. They were also really inefficient in GT mo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Degradation - voltage or current?

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
I agree that Voc doesn't seem to degrade as much. I've had a chance to measure several modules over 20 years old, and the Voc is only dropping about 1/2 the rate suggested by others here. I think a more appropriate number might be 0.25% V drop/ year. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cleaning Paint Off Modules

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
The sooner you get started, the easier it is to get off. The paint is still curing and hardening. Paint doesn't stick well to glass, so probably mild soap and water ( manufacturer approved) and a nylon scrubby pad will cure the problem. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cleaning Paint Off Modules

2014-06-04 Thread Ray Walters
Woofenden wrote: Thanks all! We're working on getting in touch with someone from the module manufacturer who can tell us something substantive before proceeding. Best, Louis On 6/4/14, 11:33 AM, Ray Walters wrote: The sooner you get started, the easier it is to get off. The paint is still c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flexible stranded Connectors

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Walters
aller, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 4/30/2014 12:01 AM, William Miller wrote: Ray: Darn good question, especially since I will be doing the exact same thing, *tomorrow*. I have never been clear on the real problem. Fine stranded cables overheat in the wrong lugs

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV direct to a 230Vac pump?

2014-06-17 Thread Ray Walters
The Franklin SolarPak uses a standard AC motor and pump down hole, and a special inverter/ controller above ground for array direct operation. The pump is 3 phase though. You didn't mention phase, but I'm guessing yours is not 3 phase. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Insta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shattered Evergreen ES-160-SL Module, DPW TOP rack

2014-06-21 Thread Ray Walters
As noted in the previous case, the shattered module is on the bottom corner. Those are the most vulnerable to damage from animals, kids, vehicles, etc. The tempered glass always shatters as you described, when enough force is applied. Look very closely for some slight bending of the frame w

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI disturbances. wire nuts

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I just came back from a call back on a system we did last year. Problem? Bad wire nut connection on the AC side. It it was a pump, so it took several amps. I still agree with August though, its not the wire nut; its not doing the connection right. This particular connection did not have enough

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI disturbances. wire nuts

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I've had butt splices fail, due to a ratchet release type crimper that didn't pinch the wires tight enough. I now use a good old Klein crimper that puts a big indent on one side. The problem with this however, is that it damages the built in insulation. My favorite butt splice is uninsulated,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Split bolt

2014-06-25 Thread Ray Walters
I also quit doing split bolts, after I had one on an array that wasn't tightened enough, and it got hot melted the tape. I found it looking for a 3 v drop. Not only are they hard and time consuming to tape, you can't check them later either for voltage or tightness. I've use both the piercing

Re: [RE-wrenches] No toxic sealant

2014-06-26 Thread Ray Walters
Butyl tape is what we used for decades on rain catch systems.Check with the Earth ship folks at Greater World, they're all over the details on rain catch systems. http://earthship.com/community R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum and Pumps

2014-07-03 Thread Ray Walters
Based on many successful installs, I'd say a 3/4 HP pump is not a problem at all, and that the Magnum could easily run a 1-1/2 HP submersible pump. 2 HP probably, but that's where you start worrying. The Franklin Subpak controller can be used on regular AC pumps and not only offers constant pre

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island retrofit

2014-07-03 Thread Ray Walters
A 60 amp continuously rated AC breaker is what is actually being used in the UL listed E Panel from Midnite. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 7/3/2014 9:01 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: Mac, Be car

Re: [RE-wrenches] Arc Flash Training

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
I took an 8 hr Arc Flash Hazard Analysis Training course from HP&P Safety here in Colorado. I'm sure there are quite a few places that offer this. Its a standard course. Basically after you watch enough video of folks getting blown up, you start rethinking your approach to opening any live boxe

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
HUPs are 6 individual cells in a heavy steel case. The individual cells can be removed without welding lead, and they have a warranty of10 years, 2100 cycles to 80% DOD. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-87

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-11 Thread Ray Walters
I All, I'm sorry I was unclear on my question. I am looking for individual steel cased 2v industrial batteries, not 12v or 24v packs. thanks jay ps thanks chris. On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Ray Walters wrote: HUPs are 6 individual cells in a heavy steel case. The individual cells can b

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Ray Walters
I put the batteries into a 30 " deep ground vault when possible. Earth temperature is much more stable. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 7/12/2014 7:13 AM, jay peltz wrote: Hi all Yes good points

Re: [RE-wrenches] Gin Pole

2014-07-30 Thread Ray Walters
Everyone is on point with this. This is probably the more dangerous work I've ever done. You need a truck with a good winch too, along with pulleys and attachment gear. The gin pole is probably there; it usually isn't removed. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Li

Re: [RE-wrenches] UPS disturbance with SMA Inverters

2014-08-04 Thread Ray Walters
Is it possible that the inverters are raising line voltage high enough to make the UPS respond by clicking, but not high enough to have them actually trip? I'm not familiar enough with UPS control structure, but it might run a quick test (the click) when the voltage gets close to its high volt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Changing from 2 battery cable setup to single cable for Outback?

2014-08-09 Thread Ray Walters
Midnite makes several good things for this situation, including their E Panel for the Radian, which I'm sure is better than Outback's version. They also have low cost AC bypass switch assemblies, and I've recently used their PV Combiner boxes for AC distribution with AC rated DIN rail mountable

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM discrepancy

2014-08-15 Thread Ray Walters
I'd second that. Let somebody with a 12 v system play with the pair of gray ones. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 8/15/2014 5:19 PM, m...@hurshtown.com wrote: I would send them back. If used, I w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fan Controller

2014-08-20 Thread Ray Walters
The same PWM control used on charge controllers is also used on electric vehicles for DC motors. We've done many different ones and different voltages and sizes. Something like this might work: http://www.electricscooterparts.com/speedcontrollers24volt.html R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabc

[RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-20 Thread Ray Walters
Greetings fellow Wrenches; I have a customer that just purchased some Sunpower E20 -435 modules somehow from Ebay, and wants me to design a backup power system for him. This system would be battery based and not be grid tied. SO the question is: has Sunpower put to rest the positive grounding

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
That's good news. Thanks, R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 8/21/2014 6:35 AM, Isaac Opalinsky wrote: Ray, Please contact me off list to verify for these specific. If you have the exact

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunpower off grid?

2014-08-21 Thread Ray Walters
esign Engineer 303 505-8760 On 8/21/2014 2:26 PM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Hello Ray, I have been installing SunPower cell modules for about a decade. All of our mobile installations are ungrounded arrays, off grid we use negative ground. We have never had any issue using th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Assembly Protects Conductors?

2014-08-22 Thread Ray Walters
Most combiner boxes, DC rated breakers, and DC rated fuses and fuse holders we use today, qualify as assemblies for the 100% exception (Outback, Midnite, etc.) so you only have to size the OCP by 125% of short circuit current rating for edge of cloud effects. Since the conductor is sized bas

Re: [RE-wrenches] Assembly Protects Conductors?

2014-08-23 Thread Ray Walters
Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 8/23/2014 9:41 AM, Mark Frye wrote: Ray, I can't follow you all the way down that path. Is an insulated wire conductor permitted to be use at 100% of it's rating under continuous

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverters Maximum Input Ratings

2014-08-26 Thread Ray Walters
Th one factor I don't think any of us have enough info on yet is the reduced lifespan of the inverter. Heat kills electronics, and an inverter that is running at max capacity more of the time will be running hotter. The MTBF (mean time between failures) is only going to get worse at higher hea

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown questions

2014-08-28 Thread Ray Walters
So this would make sense that this Rapid Shut down provision would cover all generator backup systems too, not just solar. Considering auto start backup generators have been around for many decades, I have a few questions: 1) Does NEC 2014 require Rapid shutdown for all generator systems, or is

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV panel backing

2014-09-01 Thread Ray Walters
I've done patch jobs on little 12 v systems, and had them hold up for many years, but I concur, I wouldn't try that at higher PV voltages. Silicon sealant actually is slightly conductive, at least according to other Wrenches when this subject came up several years back. R.Ray Walters CTO, Sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy sold to tax dodger

2014-09-07 Thread Ray Walters
Dang, I was just shifting my off grid projects over to predominantly Magnum... First Trace went to the darkside with Xantrex, then Outback started hiring "no experience necessary" tech support personnel, and now Magnum gets gobbled up. Where is an aging off grid installer to turn to? Start

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy sold to tax dodger

2014-09-07 Thread Ray Walters
While I'm proud that our country has strived to protect worker's rights with Unions, OSHA, Worker's Comp, and minimum wage, the reality is that small employers like my business are faced with an ever rising hurdle to actually "create jobs". It IS much easier to buy a gadget, tool, etc., or su

Re: [RE-wrenches] Poletop rack with easy tilt change...anybody got that?

2014-09-08 Thread Ray Walters
We've also added a tractor type turnbuckle to the DPW racks that allows the tilt adjust without taking loose the array. As others noted, the Top of Pole mounts are usually center balanced, so the tilt adjust is fairly easy, but wind can certainly grab the array while its loose, and cause trouble

Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePo4

2014-09-16 Thread Ray Walters
I think if we started over fresh with our lead acid battery system designs, we would find we should have the same Battery management system requirements that you have mentioned. Those are all problems that plague lead acid as well. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Watsun problem

2014-09-22 Thread Ray Walters
Sounds like you are driving it too far to the East. You may need to rotate the tracker on the pole towards the east, and then reset the limit switches. Also, don't have the limits more than 180 degrees total, or you start asking for trouble. It can try to do the morning reset back around to t

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