Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80 failures due to arc faults

2022-01-26 Thread Maverick Brown
What kind of fans? And are they large? On the far end of the 1300’ run? Sounds like hat 1300’ foot run is acting like an inductive whip to the radians. I suggest installing ferrite cores on the dc and ac conductor pairs to attenuate transient spikes. Maverick Brown Off-Grid Solar Commander sin

Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80 failures due to arc faults

2022-01-26 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Nick, Do you have any rapid shutdown equipment on the arrays? The only charge controller (Midnite CLassic) that we have ever had that failed with a short on PV Input, had the Tigo Shutdown boxes on them (TS4-AF). I have always been curious if that failure mode was due to the Tigo signal someh

Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80 failures due to arc faults

2022-01-26 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches Here is a quick tip regarding Outback and the ghost arc fault, this can apply to either pre-wired or wire on site Radian Power Panels, you will need to look at the charge controller and first loosen each of the screw down wire clamps with good light and a clear view slowly pull the wire ba

Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80 failures due to arc faults

2022-01-26 Thread William Miller
Aw shucks, Nick, thanks for the compliment. I am not sure it is justified here because I have not experienced the failure scenario you have with this system. I must return the compliment in that it appears your approach to troubleshooting has been very diligent. Here are a few ideas off the

Re: [RE-wrenches] FM80 failures due to arc faults

2022-01-26 Thread Jay
It’s the gfi breaker that’s tripping right? There is another possibility. I’ve seen extremely high loads with weak batteries cause the capacitors in the CC to dump causing the breakers to trip. One easy fix is to install more wire between the CC and the battery or a smaller size, within amp

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread William Miller
Michael: This seems like a rather stunning oversight—offering a charge controller without any means to integrate it into the BOS built by the same manufacturer. Just now I laid a 600 VDC rated touch-safe fuse holder over a QOU breaker. The fuse holder is smaller than the breaker so it would f

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
It is 600vdc ! Do you want that in a PDP with your 48Vdc and 120/240vac? I do not believe it to be UL listed for 600vdc in there, and so you are breaking some pretty big rules here. I do not post much anymore here. Keep 600vdc out of the PDP and for Offgrid we always want high reliability. Just g

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread William Miller
Dave: With all due respect, I don’t see this as an issue. All of our building wire is rated at 600 volts. If you segregate your OPCD, work neatly and bundle your various lead groupings I think it is perfectly safe. If one is real paranoid, you could rivet in some partitions or more simply, sle

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread Eric Smiley
I looked up the CSA record for the XW PDP and it shows: - Maximum System Voltage (DC) 150V dc - Maximum Battery System Voltage 62 V dc (48V nominal) - Maximum System Voltage (AC) 140/280V ac *Eric Smiley,* Project Manager e...@vecoop.ca T: 250.703.6004 <+12507036004> T: 888.386.0116

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches Midnite has them so ask your gut to get them on board, I have gotten them before Jerry On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:08 AM Michael Morningstar < mjmornings...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wrenches, > > Can anyone direct me to PV input breakers that are rated up to 600VDC that > would work in a Conex

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread Jeremy Coxon
I’m facing this same issue. In the past we’ve used the old SQD disco’s near the inverter and fuses in combiners near the array, but they’re big and expensive. Anyone used these or see any issue with these: https://www.industrialcontroldirect.com/dc-disconnect-si16-pel64r-4-p-4080.html?gclid=C

Re: [RE-wrenches] High Voltage Breakers for Conext Mppt-80-600

2022-01-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Eric, definitely what I had seen when we offgrid field tested the mppt- 80 in 2010 ! Totally bullet proof charger and the SQD disco shows there are 127 on the west coast for $115 HU361RB. Typically this is outside and protected where it belongs. It is fine next to the mppt if needed. Just do not

[RE-wrenches] 24v to 48v upgrade help

2022-01-26 Thread Aaron Mandelkorn
Wrenches, I have a customer with a very old 24v off grid pv system. He wants to upgrade his array, inverter and battery bank. There are no options for inverter/chargers over 4000 watts in 24v dc. The same goes for lithium iron batteries. Everything (of higher wattage and battery capacity) seem

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24v to 48v upgrade help

2022-01-26 Thread Jeff Clearwater
HI Aaron, You could stack multiple 24 Volt inverters to achieve more KW and there are plenty of 24 V Lithium battery options. (like Signature Solar, Simpliphi, Discover etc.) If you do go for converting to 48 Volt then depending on how many amps of 24V loads you have (how many is it?) - you

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24v to 48v upgrade help

2022-01-26 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Aaron, You can do DC to DC buck converters, but I would suggest cheap and efficient 24V, AC power supplies. It's easy to have some spares around and they can be very reliable. On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 5:16 PM Aaron Mandelkorn wrote: > Wrenches, > > I have a customer with a very old 24v off g

Re: [RE-wrenches] 24v to 48v upgrade help

2022-01-26 Thread frenergy
Aaron,             It would be helpful to know how many amps are required to power the 24 volt loads and should we assume the batteries are toast or nearly so?  The brand of inverter?             As Jeff said there are 24V L-ion choices. Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owne