[RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread Steve Higgins
Good Morning Wrenches… I’d like to take the recent Trojan thread to throw this out there! With the IEC certification, many battery manufactures are being forced to recommend higher settings to charge their batteries. The problem with off grid systems, or even some grid back up systems is the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16 charge settings

2016-01-19 Thread Dave
William, Sounds like the Trojan rep #1 Doesn't know off-grid equipment if they are giving you a different voltage for absorption than the bulk voltage setting. #2 Says that "Absorb Time needs to be increased, maybe from 3 hours up to 4 or 5 hours" - that is unrealistic for day to day off

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread RE Ellison
OK Steve now you got me thinking, Some would say that's a bad idea! Using the voltage settings you're speaking of what would you recommend for equalize charging ? I have always thought that different settings for different times of year was logical but you're getting your bulk up you know what

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread Steve Higgins
The testing that we have done with our batteries, is well over 90% completed has actually increased cycle life and performance even at the higher charging voltages… We are testing at 2.6vpc just for your information, these batteries have actually tested at over 110% capacity. That being said th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries

2016-01-19 Thread Kirk Herander
SE, both inverter and optimizers are now compatible with Sunpower? Someone also told me Sunpower now makes a negatively grounded panel. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 10:27 AM To: 'RE-wrenches'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries

2016-01-19 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Since SunPower began using their Maxxeon cells several years ago, the grounded conductor—when there is one—is indeed negative. (No grounded conductor while using TL inverters.) marco From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirk Herander Sent: Tu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread frenergy
Steve, So the message I am getting is even though we are always installing a BTS, seasonal adjustments are still necessary...to both V settings /and absorption times? /Definitely, a major part of my job in off-grid is to assess as best as possible, the customer's system use habits to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread frenergy
Steve, Yikes, so to confirm, even on your or anybody's double-walled cells the best BTS location is down the side of the cell. It seems so thermally distance/insulated from the electrolyte and lead which we are all so concerned about protecting. I've said this before, no doubt I'm i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread Jay
Hi Steve, I'm curious about the temp sensor location. Some OEM's use a bolt on type. How do you find this for accuracy? Thanks Jay Peltz power. > On Jan 19, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Steve Higgins wrote: > > The testing that we have done with our batteries, is well over 90% completed > has ac

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread Chris Mason
What about temperature sensors bolted to the lugs? Surely a physical thermal transfer over metal is more accurate that the external case would be? On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 PM, frenergy wrote: > Steve, > > Yikes, so to confirm, even on your or anybody's double-walled > cells the best

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Charge Settings.

2016-01-19 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
I have long been a fan of aggressive charge voltages for flooded batteries in daily cyclical use. As Steve has emphasized, temp. comp. is imperative, especially using higher absorb voltage as over-voltage at high cell temperature rapidly reduces cycle life. It is my observation that most L16 s