Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-10-02 Thread Bill Loesch
Brian AEE Solar -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lerner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:49 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH Hello Brian, I am running

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-10-01 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
e-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lerner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:49 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH Hello Brian, I am running one of these older French models at home as well. Do you happen to have a source for parts? Thanks, Ja

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-10-01 Thread Jason Lerner
.@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Loesch > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:00 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH > > > Hi Bill, et al, > > There are two major categories of tankless water heaters-natural draft (which > work very

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2013-10-01 Thread Larry Brown
I have had a Bosch/Aqua Star 125 HX LP On Demand Water Heater installed and working flawlessly in my home since February of 2007 with a hydro generator that ignites the pilot and main burner when there is a demand for hot water. With no demand for hot water, there is no standing pilot light and

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2013-10-01 Thread Tom Duffy
: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:19 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH i remember hearing there was one brand which had a tiny hydro generator, operated by the flowing water, which was used to light the burner... yet, no one mentioned them? todd On Tuesday, October 1

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2013-10-01 Thread toddcory
i remember hearing there was one brand which had a tiny hydro generator, operated by the flowing water, which was used to light the burner... yet, no one mentioned them? todd On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 5:48am, "Bill Loesch" said: > > Hi Dick, > > Following the Carter era oil

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-10-01 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi Dick, Following the Carter era oil embargo energy awareness, pilot lights were reduced from ~700 BTU/h to ~ half. In a tank, that heat is put to amazingly efficient use; not so with a tankless. In places where they take energy usage seriously, the pilot light is lit only when the tankles

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2013-09-30 Thread Solar Energy Solutions
e too little one day than too big all the Year after."    From: Brian Teitelbaum To: RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH Hi Bill, I'm still running an Aquastar 125BS (original French

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2013-09-30 Thread Dan Fink
un...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: > re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bill Loesch > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:00 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH > > > Hi Bill, et al, > > There are two major categories

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-09-30 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
Loesch Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 5:00 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH Hi Bill, et al, There are two major categories of tankless water heaters-natural draft (which work very similar in control aspect to a conventional tank i.e.. no electric required, some form

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2013-09-30 Thread Richard L Ratico
As concerns standby loss, I can't speak to the others, but the Rinnai has a simple on/off button on the front of the unit. A remote controller is available which also provides the switch. It does take afew seconds for the unit to boot up. Up to three remotes may be installed, making the on /off ope

Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH

2013-09-30 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi Bill, et al, There are two major categories of tankless water heaters-natural draft (which work very similar in control aspect to a conventional tank i.e.. no electric required, some form of pilot light) and power vented (all power vented machines have need for at least a fan, most a compu

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2013-09-29 Thread frenergy
rtant what consumption may be during firing as it doesn't really represent very much actual time. Thanks, Bill - Original Message - From: Dan Fink To: RE-wrenches Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] On demand WH You'll have to shop aro

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2013-09-29 Thread Dan Fink
You'll have to shop around; there are still some that use no power. As a hard-core off-gridder, I hate seeing standby power use, and even worse a freeze prevention heating element. A good old pilot light keeps them from freezing too! Geez. Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy

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2013-09-29 Thread Ray Walters
If its a Rinai, I measured one once that was 30 watts AC standby, and jumped a bit higher when firing. It also needed pure sine. The customer swapped it for a regular hot water tank. Some Bosches and old Palomas, etc. had either a piezo ignition or pilot, but took no power. I'm working on a sy

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2013-09-28 Thread jay peltz
Hi bill Just installed a takagi TK4 6 watts standby, pilotless 87 watts on 110 watts freeze element. Solar preheat ready This one has a fan Others I've seen have no fan, and some with no standby watts or pilot Jay Peltz power. On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:19 PM, "frenergy" wrote: > Off-grid Wr