i remember hearing there was one brand which had a tiny hydro generator, operated by the flowing water, which was used to light the burner... yet, no one mentioned them? todd On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 5:48am, "Bill Loesch" <solar1onl...@charter.net> said:
> > Hi Dick, > > Following the Carter era oil embargo energy awareness, pilot lights were > reduced from ~700 BTU/h to ~ half. In a tank, that heat is put to > amazingly efficient use; not so with a tankless. > > In places where they take energy usage seriously, the pilot light is lit > only when the tankless is going to be used. A piezo igniter is standard > on the standing pilot natural draft heater identified earlier. > > For all those folks with a tank, using it as a batch heater with the > circuit breaker or pilot gas selector also eliminates the majority of > standby loss. My pet peeve is folks who unwittingly heat the water well > past the using temp and temper it with cold at the faucet. > > Glad you are pleased with your tankless operation, > > Bill Loesch > Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar > 314 631 1094 > > On 30-Sep-13 7:29 AM, Richard L Ratico wrote: > > As concerns standby loss, I can't speak to the others, but the Rinnai has a > > simple on/off button on the front of the unit. A remote controller is > available > > which also provides the switch. It does take afew seconds for the unit to > boot > > up. Up to three remotes may be installed, making the on /off operation and > > temperature adjustment fairly convenient. > > > > Been using a Rinnai here, on grid for 10 years or so. It works. We like it. > > > > I understand a pilot uses a significant amount of gas over the course of a > year. > > Just sayin'. > > > > Dick Ratico > > Solarwind Electric > > > > --- You wrote: > > If its a Rinai, I measured one once that was 30 watts AC standby, and > > jumped a bit higher when firing. It also needed pure sine. > > The customer swapped it for a regular hot water tank. > > Some Bosches and old Palomas, etc. had either a piezo ignition or pilot, > > but took no power. > > I'm working on a system with one now that needs 12vdc at about 5 watts. > > > > R.Ray Walters > > CTO, Solarray, Inc > > Nabcep Certified PV Installer, > > Licensed Master Electrician > > Solar Design Engineer > > 303 505-8760 > > --- end of quote --- > > _______________________________________________ > > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > > > Change email address & settings: > > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > > > List rules & etiquette: > > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > > > Check out participant bios: > > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6707 - Release Date: 09/28/13 > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6707 - Release Date: 09/28/13 > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > Sent from Finest Planet WebMail.
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