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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org on behalf of jay peltz
Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 12:33 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] pane
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org on behalf of jay peltz
Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 1:47 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] panel fire
Hi All,
I'm wondering if there has been any more news about the panel fire on
the wind-sun site?
What are the Open Energy ( now a
.com <mailto:bri...@eagleroofing.com>
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org on behalf of jay peltz
Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 1:47 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] panel fire
Hi All,
I'm wondering if there has been any more news about the panel
Hi All,
I'm wondering if there has been any more news about the panel fire on
the wind-sun site?
What are the Open Energy ( now applied solar) made with? I know they
are a non glass unit, but I don't know what the bottom/backing is made
of?
thanks,
jay
peltz power
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discussion about the need for
> limited
> license or certified installers. Its a rag that promotes DIY & his work in
> Central A.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
es.org] On Behalf Of Allan
Sindelar
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:15 AM
To: al...@positiveenergysolar.com; 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
Wrenches,
OK, so this went out to the list by mistake. Where's the "unsend" button
when I need it? By reading
& his work in
Central A.
-Original Message-
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel
Davidson
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:01 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
There are goo
- Original Message -
From: William Miller
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
Friends:
Michael makes a good point about privacy. As much as we all want to get this
out in the open so that maybe we can prevent the in
Wrenches,
OK, so this went out to the list by mistake. Where's the "unsend" button
when I need it? By reading on, you can see that I intended to ask Michael
for guidance before posting this to the list.
I sent what I believe was a kind and supportive message to the contact email
of the Marriage-to
Michael,
Last night I sent the message below to the contact email for the chapel, and
got their response. I would like to forward this to the list, in order to
guide our collective behavior. How do you advise that I proceed?
Allan
-Original Message-
Hi gang. Contact me off list if any ques
Friends:
Michael makes a good point about privacy. As much as we all want to get
this out in the open so that maybe we can prevent the installer form
burning down more houses, any action has to be taken by the home owner. I
am wondering if Wind-Sun, who hosts the user site on which the posts
umVB/
..
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Fink"
To: "RE-wrenches"
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire + DIY Ebooks
Hi all -- Thought I'd better chime in now. We are going to start seeing a
lot of this (fires, electrocutions, l
Hi all -- Thought I'd better chime in now. We are going to start seeing
a lot of this (fires, electrocutions, lawsuits), and RE Wrenches are
going to have to be aware of it and be prepared for repair calls,
consulting, and even "expert witness" court testimony.
Since besides private RE consult
the Rahus Institute, etc. See http://www.rahus.org/
and many more well-informed, good people around the world.
- Original Message -
From: Matt Lafferty
To: jry...@netscape.com ; 'RE-wrenches'
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches]
Hi Jeff,
Somebody should keep an eye on that neighbor of your friend. There have been
any number of "DIY" publications and scams out there. Here's just one of
many that basically lead to the same thing
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/hsh/1031018343.html The C-list ad has a
link to this place
hardville, WI 53516
> 608.523.3726
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Joel Davidson wrote:
>
> > Maybe I missed this information, but does anyone know
> > 1) the address of this system?
> > 2) the installer?
> > See http://www.marriagetogo.com/h
Hi gang. Contact me off list if any questions or concerns.
We can probably find these folks' home and their system if we want to, we are
very close. But they have gone to lengths to protect household privacy, so
please let's not make it public here.
The other day a guy rented a warehouse near a business friend of mine and he went over to say Hi. My friend later told me this guy told him he was planning to "build" solar pv modules that he was going to sell and install. Although my friend was no engineer and didn't really know what to look f
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On Feb 12, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Joel Davidson wrote:
Maybe I missed this information, but does anyone know
1) the address of this system?
2) the installer?
See http://www.marriagetogo.com/homeoffice.html
- Original Message -
From: Michael Welch
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Sent: Wednesday,
on, installer/supplier, existence of
another array etc.
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Allan Sindelar wrote:
From: Allan Sindelar
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
To: "'RE-wrenches'"
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:57 PM
One detail I
olar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/
..
- Original Message -
From: Brian Sipp
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrench
Michael - it gets worse - if you look at the bottom of the website with
the story about them having to leave Disneyland to run back to there
house which was on fire - there are some links to related items:
For more info:
Screamin' is right: my favorite ride at the park
"Traditional" anniver
27;
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
This seems corroborating. It has GOT to be the same situation:
http://www.examiner.com/x-432-Wedding-and-Marriage-Examiner~y2009m2d10-Our-wedding-anniversary-like-a-house-on-fire-literally
Search the
Wed, 2/11/09, Allan Sindelar
wrote:
From: Allan Sindelar
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
To: "'RE-wrenches'"
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:57 PM
One detail I haven't heard mentioned yet and am curious about - the
photo of the fire damage appears to show t
onsidering the lack of detail that the
poster is giving
about the panels, location, installer/supplier, existence of another array etc.
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Allan Sindelar wrote:
From: Allan Sindelar
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
To: "'RE-wrenches'"
Date: Wednesda
One detail I haven't heard mentioned yet and am curious about - the photo of
the fire damage appears to show the corner of another west(?)-facing array.
I find it curious that the system owner described a 2 kW system made up of
eight 250W(!) modules, which are clearly visible in the topmost system
inal Message -
From: "Travis Creswell"
To: "'RE-wrenches'"
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
Yeah, spooky pictures. Certainly that was non-glass glazing. I can make
out a way too unsecured wire at the top lef
11, 2009 12:03 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
At the very least, it shows a good reason to not use any of those off-brand
(or no brand) cheap unlisted panels that have been floatin
city From The Sun
..
- Original Message -
From: "Drake Chamberlin"
To: "RE-wrenches"
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
The last
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
Dear Wind-Sun:
The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is
impossible to make any definitive conclusions from the vague information
provided, but here are a few things that got my attention:
--If I could detect, from the before photos
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:57 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire
Dear Wind-Sun:
The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is
impossible to make any definit
The last post on your discussion forum, from the person identified as
BB, looks the most likely. The modules were large (250 W), corner
mounted, with plastic (instead of glass) "glazing." The panels were
able to flex under wind load, and damage the internal conductors. It
looks to me from t
Dear Wind-Sun:
The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is
impossible to make any definitive conclusions from the vague information
provided, but here are a few things that got my attention:
--If I could detect, from the before photos provided, a first rate
ins
In view of the recent discussion here about fires and PV systems, you might
all want to take a look at this post that someone just posted on our forum
http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/showthread.php?t=4524
I never heard of this happening before.
.
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