You're talking to the people who have those rare skills. Unfortunately,
we're all working for ourselves, not each other! (let's go ahead and pat
ourselves on the back)
We've found some success taking people from other disciplines in trade
schools. At least they are in "learn mode" and have done so
Having gone through a traditional five year electrical apprenticeship, almost
thirty years ago, and working as a foreman on large industrial projects, I came
to know hundreds and hundreds of apprentices. Some were fresh out of high
school while others were making a mid-life career change. There
Hi Luke;
I would say that the ability to think is the primary attribute I'm
looking for, and the difference between an apprentice and a laborer. It
is indeed rare. Most folks really just don't soak up much of the
knowledge we're trying to pass on, either due to lack of interest or
lack of b
Since we're pretty far down the road of throwing out traits that define the
mythic ideal employee/apprentice, I'm going to add what I think is one of the
most important (and probably most difficult to find) traits, which is the
ability to THINK (preferably quickly) on one's feet to solve a prob
Ray,
In VT and NH, at least, electrical apprenticeships are defined and regulated by
the state. Apprentices must be registered and enrolled in approved formal
coursework as well as meet specific employment requirements for paid, hands on
work in the field.
Dick Ratico
Solarwind Electric
--- You
I don't understand; are there legal reasons to not call it an
apprenticeship? (sounds like indentured servitude?)
When I got started in the biz, I would have loved to been offered an
apprenticeship. Instead, I went out in the woods while my family
suffered through my well intentioned, but
May I please add
1) Must know the difference between AC and DC.
2) Must be able to identify what each prong is when shown an AC plug.
boB
On 4/28/2015 6:35 PM, Dan Fink wrote:
Esteemed Wrenches:
I teach hands-on /Intro to PV/ and/Intro to Solar Therma/l at a 2-year
technical colle
I think you should describe the job as a trainee. You can do anything you
want after that. Just don't call it an apprenticeship.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Ray Walters wrote:
> Hi Bob;
>
> That's an excellent point. I'm trying to figure out what is a fair
> arrangement: 4 years of traini
Esteemed Wrenches:
I teach hands-on *Intro to PV* and* Intro to Solar Therma*l at a 2-year
technical college in Denver. Some of my students are on track to be field
installers or designers (and will take more advanced classes next term),
while others are focusing more on green building, LEED, sust
Hi Bob;
That's an excellent point. I'm trying to figure out what is a fair
arrangement: 4 years of training is worth quite a sum of money vs. 4
years of labor in the off grid mines.
Straight up $10/ hr and I'll train them for as long as they can be
trained with raises as they reach milestones
An apprenticeship is the original 4 year degree. If the trainers are good, high
quality workpersons, and the apprentice WANTS to learn, the apprentice will
learn the trade. It's exactly the same in a college situation except that the
newly minted journeyman, unlike a college graduate, will actua
The US currently puts little value on craft versus academia, now everyone
smart is expected to go to college. Consequently there is a stigma on
vocational education. When I did my electrical apprenticeship in Ireland,
we did two years of college, one year of training school and one year in
the fi
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Hi All;
Thanks for the replies so far; I apologize for my misunderstood attempt
at humor in my initial post. I agree with Chris here, I hire contract
labor all the time, but an apprenticeship is different. Laborers top
out pretty quickly and just aren't capable of learning the nuances of
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I'm not sure how the term is used in America, but generally "apprentice" does
not mean cheap
I'm not sure how the term is used in America, but generally "apprentice"
does not mean cheap labour. An apprentice program should be an education
path to a qualification with state recognized standards, such as
Electrician or Plumber. if you just want inexpensive labour, that's not an
apprentice, t
I interview & definitely check references including: look at a tape measure and
tell me what those little marks are between 0 & 1”, & I look in their truck or
car.
If it’s clean they may take care of your vehicle then same and if it’s a mess
that’s what you can expect them to do to your truck.
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