[RE-wrenches] Any Experience AC Coupling Enphase to Magnums?

2011-08-09 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Wrench Masters, I have a friend who wants to empower his enphase array during down times. Any difference here with what this list has already discussed on AC coupling with microinverters? Thanks! Jeff -- Jeff Clearwater Village Power Design Renewable Energy Consultant 32 Years in all Aspect

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Hey Ray and all, Yes local contractors are being conacted now to get the scoop. But the Inspectors do indeed fly to the islands and it's not a foreign country to them. And yes always better to ask forgiveness rather than permission but only armed with good information! So again is there any

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Ray Walters
Canadian code? Bahamas? You my friend have to make serious contact with local contractors to get the real scoop. Seems that if the customer owns the whole island, he gets to decide what voltage and frequency to operate the island at. Are there actually building officials or inspectors that are g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread toddcory
If the DC & AC float from the ground, your clients will effectively be insulated from any current path unless they were to somehow touch both conductors simultaneously. Many countries do not reference one of their current carrying conductors to ground. Many people feel this is safer. You would

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Drake
I think the system would be technically required to have an equipment grounding conductor to connect to lighting fixtures made of conductive material. I believe this is true regardless of voltage. If these do not exist, and no metal boxes are in the system and it is only 12 V, then it might b

[RE-wrenches] arco 16-2000 ages

2011-08-09 Thread jay peltz
HI All, I'm wondering if anyone knows how to decipher the serial numbers on arco 16-2000 modules to find a date of manufacture? Thanks, jay peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Opti

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Hi Jay and All, This island is remote and stand-alone - the client owns the whole island. Yes the multi-cluster box is available now in the US - up to 60 KWs - European version goes up to 300 KWs. 400/230 would reduce wire sizes over 208/120 before we go to transformers and allow bigger micr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Richard L Ratico
Hi Jeff, Perhaps of some help, from the SMA German website: http://files.sma.de/dl/5615/INSELNETZ-PL-UEN105010.pdf Dick Ratico Solarwind Electric --- You wrote: Thanks for the input! Was nice to see you at Intersolar. WELL This is the Bahamas so it's the Canadian Code. So let's say everythi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Hi Jay, Thanks for the input! Was nice to see you at Intersolar. WELL This is the Bahamas so it's the Canadian Code. So let's say everything was listed - what are the other showstoppers? From what I know (and I risk embarrassing myself here) - the code doesn't specify voltage or frequency

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Dana
This topic is so funny, its summer. If you are on ice and drill holes in the ice what about a small hole for a short ground rod, IF, you even feel it necessary. I do not think I would bother. Have there been electrical inspectors out there that are not fishing/drinking. Dana Orzel Great Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread jay peltz
HI Jeff, I don't see how you could as the equipment isn't UL listed. Then you'd have the issue of what equipment are people going to be plugging into it, and none of that would be UL either. I think its great stuff and would love to see it happen, but I'd also like to know how, but if anyone c

[RE-wrenches] Responses Welcomed!: 230/400 50Hz in the U.S Off-grid?

2011-08-09 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Esteemed Wrenches, Is there any possibility at all I can install a 230/400 50 Hz Sunny Island Micro-grid in the U.S. or Canada and have it meet code? Is it the neutral and grounding that's going to prohibitive? Or is there a way around that? Anybody ever done it and gotten it through an ins

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Aladdin Solar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Aladdin Solar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Jason Szumlanski
It sounds like you want an AC system for your "home theater" system, so make sure you get a mobile rated inverter if you plan to have a backup AC source. That way you will have integral neutral-ground bond switching. The mobile versions are rarely much more $, if at all. Try Magnum or Outback.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Jesse Dahl
I have the very system you are talking about in my fish house. I don't ground, I only have DC loads. Jesse Dahl > Why ground it at all? > > For a low voltage 12v nominal system you can per code install a + and - OC > protection and no ground. > But if it was me, I wouldn't ground it at all, >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Ray Walters
There are many RVs out there too, and they don't sink a ground rod every time they park. Use a GFCI outlet, and I think you'll be at the same safety level as other portable systems. (Is there an ice structure building inspector?) You could still heat up a copper rod with a torch and then drive i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread jay peltz
Why ground it at all? For a low voltage 12v nominal system you can per code install a + and - OC protection and no ground. But if it was me, I wouldn't ground it at all, jay peltz power On Aug 8, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Aladdin Solar wrote: > Sounds like a silly question but is there any way to gr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Exeltech
First .. why are you grounding a portable system? It's not required. In [29 CFR 1926.404(f)(3)(i)], OSHA states the frame of a portable generator need not be grounded (connected to earth). If it's a fuel-powered generator, the NEC 250.34 states the frame may serve as the ground as long as normal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Dave Click
Per 690.41 you probably wouldn't need to ground it for a system like this, but I like the idea of dropping a ground rod down into the water. Then curve the end and find a big worm, of course. ** 690.41 System Grounding. For a photovoltaic power source, one conductor of a 2-wire system with a p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grounding system for a shack on a frozen lake?

2011-08-09 Thread Drake
That is an amusing concept, and it sounds like a fun project. Why not poke a hole in the ice and drop the rod in the water? If the water is not too deep, send it to the bottom. It certainly will be below the permanent moisture level! At 01:34 AM 8/9/2011, you wrote: Sounds like a silly qu