[RBW] Re: How do you like your first step-through bike?

What separates the Clementine from the boys of course is that swooped L top tube (there *are* two, and one is on top). The Clementine has replaced my Le Tour mixte in the lineup, which had a relatively higher top tube and when I was not--pardon the expression-- pulling my Piccolo, I generally m

Re: [RBW] Re: An Amusing Bike Service Anecdote

I'm in Patrick's camp here. I would guess more shops than not have never heard of Rivendell. What a great opportunity to share why some of the features of Riv style bikes make so much sense for so many riders! I think more women in particular might be more inclined toward cycling if the mains

[RBW] Re: How do you like your first step-through bike?

Having owned several mixtes and a Clementine, and having ridden the bike you show here at my local shop, I can tell you the Clementine is virtually the same mounting motion. Visually, the bike you link to has a massive chaincase and slightly thinner tubes, whereas the Clementine has a small cra

[RBW] Re: How do you like your first step-through bike?

And further visual distortion, the Clementine top tube rises again before joining the seat tube (a good structural design element). The tt on this bike here joins at the same level as the bottom of the loop. On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 11:28:05 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Having owned

[RBW] Re: Cheap Clem substitutes?.

Hey, I never know which of your bike for Catie threads I should respond to--,maybe this in fact is more appropriate to BOB. But anyway I bought a CB-1 for my now x a few years back. Sadly she has not maintained it, as you can see in these recent photos. Aside from the slightly wanky setup for

[RBW] Re: My 1x8 Clem

That is one handsome Clem Jr., build, Bob. I like that color a lot, too. I've been riding mine every day for a good while now, about ready for my "intermediate" report! Your gearing sounds good. One of the bikes my Clem(entine) sort of replaced was a 1x7 with a 41/27 low which worked ok, but I

[RBW] Re: Bridgestone X0-1 on the Radavist

Wow. Nice looking machine. These days I can't really imagine running a 52/38 on anything other than a thoroughbred racing machine (and even there, I go compact.) Also, the white tires look, as my 6-year-old is fond of saying lately, "FAN-see PAhnts!" But according to some, the lack of carbon in

[RBW] Re: Long/scenic day rides to do from the New York City area

There is also great riding a bit South of Beacon. Cold Spring and Garrison are the two stops before Beacon on the Hudson train line from Grand Central, and there is lots of riding, including many miles of historic unpaved roads and plenty of challenging and scenic climbs. Hop over the Bear Mo

Re: [RBW] More, or less lights/reflectivity better?

You mean the brown deer lying dead on the side of the road? I will assume that Clayton is kidding a bit here. I like reflective vests, ankle straps (and/or pedal reflectors), and tape, and lights both day and night for the riding I do most these days--commuting, shopping, or towing my son. I h

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Listers Take Over The West Point Inn, June 24 & 25 - Join us there!!!

That's very funny, same thing happens to me every time I see this post. Beacon is just a few miles north of the academy, on the other side of the Hudson River. I think we have enough of a Hudson Valley contingent, plus NYC Bobs are only a train ride away. Wait, getting my lists confused. Anywa

Re: [RBW] Re: Where to buy bar-end shifters, advice on interesting derailleurs

VO has something similar in the works: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2016/04/long-tall-stem-prototypes.html On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 3:50:45 PM UTC-4, ian m wrote: > > Where did you find that stem? Been looking for one all over and worried > I'll have to have one custom made! -- You rec

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

Of course to some extent Grant's writing is designed to help his business. But I would not really categorize a 1,000-word essay about rim vs disc on his Blug as sales and marketing. For me, there were two key points in his post. First, he writes about the changes necessary in the frame when sp

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

I am puzzled as to how you concluded Grant thinks disc brakes are "better." That is a vague term in the best of scenarios; given the various points and counterpoints brought up in the post, it seems more your preconceived conclusion than Petersen's opinion in the piece. "Disc brakes are fine, bu

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

Well then Bill, let's just agree to agree! Quite convivial. On Friday, May 13, 2016 at 6:23:00 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > I'm puzzled that you are puzzled, Mark in Beacon. > > I used the term 'better' to mean 'more powerful, but overkill for most > situations', which is what I think Gran

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

"Money trail" and "investment world" sure make this sound big-time--conspiratorial, even! But then again, all bicycles and bicycle parts cost money. It's not quite as simple as, "Hey, let's come up with something completely different so we can make more money." The way our economy is set up, co

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

"Refined," with it's implication of removing elements, is probably the wrong word here. Modern technology tends to add complexity. I have used the example of a car's rear view mirror, but the entire vehicle is basically a computer black box on wheels, and even the technicians operating the diag

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

Oops. I meant side view mirror, but whatever. It's the myth of progress, that humans as a species are somehow destined to go from wooden sticks to the constellations. Which means the fate of humanity is resting on Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk...yikes. Interesting how our rational, scientific civili

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_of_disc On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 1:41:51 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Patrick Moore asked: > "Why does everyone spell it "disc" instead of "disk"?" > > They spell it that way because that's the way it is spelled. Generally if > you choose to spell i

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

I guess you did not click on the link I posted above. There is a US/UK component to it. On Tuesday, May 17, 2016 at 4:05:35 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > This is too enigmatic for me. > > Patrick "I thought it might be a US/UK difference" Moore > > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Bill Lind

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT; WTB BURLEY PICCOLO

It's one of my all-time favorite bicycle accessories. That's dad, Mack, and Clementine at the farmers market last week. (I knew there was a reason I didn't ditch that old Pearl Izumi rain jacket!) On the topic, I would like to get a second Moose, and they now are listed as compatible with the

[RBW] Ride report: A Short, Eggcellent Adventure

I was a bit tired after work but I still had to vote on the school budget and pick up eggs from a friend. He said they would be "in something" and hanging on the driveway fence. Knowing that his egg cartons are buried somewhere deep in his shed, I grabbed a soft shell cooler and threw it in t

Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

Hi George. I wasn't chastising anyone for their spelling, (and you spelled it correctly) just pointing out to Patrick that the wiki thing I posted explained the two spellings, and part of the difference *was *the US/UK thing he mentioned--though it is not a clear cut case of US/UK such as gray/

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT; WTB BURLEY PICCOLO

Thanks Eric and Jeremy. I may order an extra for another bike. Even if he outgrows the Piccolo in another year, that will still leave me with one useful, bombproof rack. On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 10:44:12 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Tavan wrote: > > The Moose racks (bought recently) do have a threaded

Re: [RBW] Re: Slightly OT; WTB BURLEY PICCOLO

tourist/1023320491 > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:10 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> Thanks Eric and Jeremy. I may order an extra for another bike. Even if he >> outgrows the Piccolo in another year, th

[RBW] Re: Aggressive cycling pack and I slipped up today

As someone who has done some of the very first "Muffin Rides" from NYC to Nyack and the Runcible Spoon, way before they put in all that bicycle parking, before STI, before carbon, I will say that the pack that went past you was more than likely not being malicious at all. None of them has an in

Re: [RBW] Re: Aggressive cycling pack and I slipped up today

I think we're getting into generalizations here. Car drivers, recreational cyclists, long-distance riders, truck drivers, pedestrians, competitive cyclists out training--there are of course bad apples in every bunch. Maybe I'm lucky, but most of the racers I've ridden/trained with on public road

Re: [RBW] Re: Aggressive cycling pack and I slipped up today

A peloton is the main group in a bicycle race. It would be a stretch to refer to a large haphazard group doing a century ride together as a peloton. That may indeed be a pack of asshats. I don't do events. On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 7:02:06 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > You have obvio

[RBW] Re: Aggressive cycling pack and I slipped up today

This idea of staring at the wheel in front of you is incorrect. I was taught to look past the hip of the rider in front. You certainly don't stare at the wheel you are following. After some time riding pacelines or in a peloton, you develop an awareness, a kind of sixth sense of where you need

[RBW] Bike Displacement, or, Clementine Kicks Lady Le Tour to the Curb

Or, Le Tour Redux My main commuter & around & about bike before the Clementine was my Schwinn Le Tour, doing its impersonation of a Cheviot. Its chainstays are not a

[RBW] Bike Displacement, or, Clementine Kicks Lady Le Tour to the Curb

Or, Le Tour Redux My main commuter & around & about bike before the Clementine was my Schwinn Le Tour, doing its impersonation of a Cheviot. Its chainstays are not a

[RBW] Re: Ride report about a 400K on an A.Homer Hilsen

Nice take, thanks for writing your experience. I like the affects on the featured photo illustration too. On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 12:27:16 AM UTC-4, Iron Rider wrote: > > For those who may be interested: > > > http://eprider.blogspot.com/2016/05/spirited-rides-or-revisting-hierarchy.html >

[RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

I agree 100% with Leah. Disappointing. I bought an Islabike for my 6 year old in March. He loves the bike. I will say that if they were offering the "pro" series at

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

Wow. Can't quite wrap your mind around it? Let me try to help. You are on a list called Rivendelll Bicycle Works Owners Bunch. Conveniently, serendipitously even, the owner and founder of RBW wrote a post a couple of days ago that expounds on some of the motivations behind his business. Some

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

>From my first post in this thread: > *I understand there are arguments for the existence of these things--hey, > if you have the money and you want the "best" why not? Hey, life is > competition, give the kid an edge. Hey, why not emulate your "heroes. ...* > *It goes without saying that t

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about snobbery or proselytizing, not about anti this or that, not about who should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's qualifications for being on RBW. If you have actually read what I wrote and the reason for m

[RBW] Re: Large Grabsack width and height?

I don't use a laptop, but I grabbed

[RBW] Re: Slightly OT; WTB BURLEY PICCOLO

Now that I have a tandem in addition to the Piccolo, it's time to *borrow* a kid. On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 4:16:17 PM UTC-4, EGNolan wrote: > > Thanks All! John it is amazing, The tandem is fun on it's own, but since > the Piccolo doesn't really add much resistance (at least in the flatlan

[RBW] Re: VO heads up

If anybody ordered the VO Model 8 sprung in black and decides they don't want it, I will be happy to buy it. I saw the sale, snoozed for a day, they are now out of stock. By the way, does anyone have a theory on whether to put the saddle treatment on the bottom of these? I do it on all my Brooks

[RBW] Re: Three Things

My thought, based on the info provided and the photos, is that the 52cm is probably borderline for your husband. Which means, as set up, paradoxically, it could feel cramped to you because his handlebars are jacked to the max, which means they come back toward the saddle that much more, which t

[RBW] Re: Three Things

I second the notion of a HubbahHubbah tandem for you guys. I got my 8 pack from Modernbike.com, as the shops that stock decent racks are few and far between in these parts. I've had no problems with them, and they offer free shipping. Unfortunately, they are currently out of stock on both the

[RBW] Anybody not receiving RBW digest emails?

Or is it just me? I have it set, as always, to the digest form. Double checked, still set to that. But I have not received an RBW email for almost a week. Not being diverted to my spam, either. Hope it wasn't something I wrote! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: [RBW] VO heads up

underside of the leather, not on > top as I thought. Have to remember where I read it. > > René > > On Saturday, June 4, 2016, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> If anybody ordered the VO Model 8 sprung in black

[RBW] Re: FS: Toe clips, 7 speed mtb wheelset, Brahma Bar/T-Bone stem combo

This may be a Schrodinger's Cat situation, but since it is still not sold on RBW, I'll take the wheelset, Patrick. On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 3:02:42 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Prices do not include shipping. > > 1. Pair Avocet L clips, used, $10. > > 2. Pair Ideale, SM or M?, $10. > > 3

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Wow, who knew Wald basket attachment methods could be so passionately debated. This is the most exciting part of my day so far! Bill, I don't think anyone commented with the idea of seriously telling you what to do. I think it's just a way of writing or talking about a position somebody might h

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

So far I am aware of zero accidents caused by catastrophic zip-tie failures. Any anecdotal evidence out there on RBW? Whereas there is evidence of a carbon fork or two breaking bad. For zips to work as an attachment device for something like a basket to a rack, you need a minimum of four attach

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Cross-posted with Anton's ziptastrophe story. Still, not a catastrophic failure of the full zip tie system. On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 4:03:05 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > So far I am aware of zero accidents caused by catastrophic zip-tie > failures. Any anecdotal evidence out there on R

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Not sure how "trashed out" zip ties really are, visually speaking. Two examples: First, I used a couple green "fence ties" on my Kuwahara, to keep my Baggins from moving too much on the rack. I zipped it, and was about to trim, when I noticed it hit the tire in such a way as to remind me of a

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

One definition of modern, industrialized humans (somewhere along the trajectory down). On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:10:49 AM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote: > > Evan overthinking zip ties Elliot in San Francisco, CA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

[RBW] Re: Anybody not receiving RBW digest emails?

Since I posted this, my RBW emails have been hitting my inbox four or five at a clip over a 24 hour period. I think I am basically caught up. Maybe something to do with server traffic or a googleglitch. On Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 10:09:36 PM UTC-4, RichS wrote: > > Mark, same here. After about

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

Anybody with the fastidiousness necessary to build the lights and do the wiring you do is obviously not in the same bumper sticker league as the average schlubby bear. In other words, I hereby disqualify your tasteful, nicely centered, small little sticker. Nice try though. On Wednesday, June 8

Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??

When it does,,, RIP ZIP On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 7:17:37 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote: > > Thank God for this post. I was deathly afraid the thread was expiring > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Daniel D. > > wrote: > > I saw some carbon fiber zip ties at home depot... > >

[RBW] Re: Show Bill your British Racing Green Bike.

My Kuwahara. I bought the frame and

[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

Word to the wise, Bill. For rentals you may want to seriously consider two, or even three, additional zip ties. Or have the basket crocheted on and charge an extra $10 an hour premium for crafty good taste. Interested to hear how this pans out. It could help me justify a dozen or so bicycles in

[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

Definitely cool. Dig that matte black paint. Seems like Albas are going to be a tight fit without a significantly longer stem? I have something sort of similar. Riv content: If they had only taken the bottom down tube, flipped it, and put it on top, I'd have a 20" folding Clem(entine) with fu

[RBW] Re: Mini Cheviot

It really is a tasteful-looking ride. Flickr won't let me magnify--is that some kind of jtek mechanism on the rear derailleur? I hear you on the stair lugging. That is about the one area where little old Miss Clementine can be a mama bear. Going down is the worst, though after a thread on the s

[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

Yeah, I read that post. I was a little disappointed she wasn't "ready yet" for the Boscos. Does that mean, what--you have to be 90 years old? As one of the first bikes that Riv was selling (at least for a time) as only a complete, I think it makes more sense for an experienced reviewer like LB

[RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

To me, it's kinda like if a reviewer reviewed the XO-1, but swapped out the mustache bars for drops. Kinda like that. On Friday, June 10, 2016 at 9:31:45 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Yeah, I read that post. I was a little disappointed she wasn't "ready yet" > for the Boscos. Does that mea

[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

I was curious, too. If you follow the link Bill posted, answers to this and other liability/protection issues would appear to be covered by Spinster. How quickly and fully may be a question that can't be answered without experience. The one caveat is you must make the transaction via credit car

Re: [RBW] Re: New Clementine for Bike Blogger

h swept back handlebars. Why can't she dislike the > Boscos? She certainly likes the rest of it. > > I liked the XO-1, but disliked the moustache bars -- what's weird about > that? I'd probably like the Clem myself, and dislike the Boscos. > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2016

[RBW] Re: I listed my Joe Appaloosa on Spinlister!

Nice teaser photo. Looks like a beautiful bicycle, great tandem color. Can you upload more than one? I like the blurb, too. Speaking of tandems, I am on the Hubbahubba list, eternally hopeful. But right now no way I can swing it. Last week I chanced upon a Santana Vision, which, for me, gets me

Re: [RBW] Curious: Betty Foy vs. Cheviot

One other reason I seem to hazily remember was to do away with the his/hers model names and different paint schemes for the same bicycle with the mixtes (a marketing necessity perhaps, mainly so guys would still feel manlihoodness when buying/riding one)--Glorius/Wilbury, Foy/Gomez. The Cheviut

Re: [RBW] Re: Raw Cotton Handlebar Tape Experiment

Guys, fair warning: It's only small step from raw cotton to...raw ALU-minium. Feels pretty good (at least on non-schweaty rides) Note the vestigial brown raw cotton

Re: [RBW] Re: Raw Cotton Handlebar Tape Experiment

In my case of course, I am not bar testing, just waiting for the rest of the tape to come off/disintegrate before spending all that time and money on redoing the bars... In terms of slippery, for the shorter rides I generally do these days, no slippage at all. And they don't seem to get very dir

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

https://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=112 On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 6:12:12 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > More rivmodels headed that way. > > Cant think of any benefits other than stability, which rivs already have > plenty of, off top of my head. > Was wondering what makes it worth the

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

I think "off road" is a little broad. Yes, at some point on some terrain somewhere, any particular bike design will start to involve compromise. In lots of directions, Rivendells take a lot longer to reach those compromises. Single track with lots of rocks and roots and logs would start to class

[RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

CSI: The Fender Dent Files On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > The right brifter hit the left side of the fender though she veered left? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

So, Tom, you like GP's "ways", the only thing you hate is... riding the bicycles he designs and sells. I guess you could say you're on topic. At least this once! Makes me wonder. On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:54:15 AM UTC-4, tdusky wrote: > > > I hate riding my other bikes and I need to sell

[RBW] Re: At least I'm consistant

I still have my flip. A few months back, it was mysteriously shutting off. As I don't pay much attention, it took me a while to notice the problem. Finally decided it was bad enough to get a new phone. But while I was going through that rigamarole (!), the symptoms seemed to go away. Love when t

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

I don't mean to minimize it though, it definitely is a consideration. I am fortunate to have the strength and health right now. But I suspect if you can carry a regular bike up, with a bit more effort you can get a long wheelbase bike up. If you can't carry a regular bike the point is moot. So

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

I also own a medium Clementine. How did you make the determination that the chain stays are unnecessarily long? While I do realize that there is some point where long becomes too long, I would have no clue as to where to begin to make such a definitive assessment about the Clementine cs length.

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

Yes, definitely not a homage, certainly based in part on the pure functionality of 80s mountain bikes. The vintage ones I've had (Canyon Express, Miyata Ridge Runner, Mongoose) all had chainstay lengths of, off the top of my head, 43-46cm, which is right around the touring bike territory of the

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr, 7 month and 2200 miles in

Good review, Zed. I've been meaning to post a 6-month review myself, now I might not need to! I bought a stock complete Clementine, so there is some difference. I have been saying Give Bosco a Chance at every opportunity. I committed to 100 days, and it makes a difference. Mine are bullmoose, to

[RBW] Re: Soma Xpress Wear

I have some 700x35 New Express in brown/tan. If you are not getting frequent flats, not threadbare, and handling not degraded, keep riding. 850 miles seems not much--how wide are they/what color? I don't keep track, but I have at least that & show some wear but I don't think that much. On Satur

[RBW] Anybody attend the Rivendell book reading for Bike Snob?

Any Walnut Creek habitues attend yesterday's reading with Eben Weiss and his Ultimate Bicycle Owner's Manual that would care to comment? Did anyone ask about the weird front fender on the cover of the book? (I know, I know, don't judge--but still.) -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Anybody attend the Rivendell book reading for Bike Snob?

Thanks for at least confirming the event was held, Joe! I take it that was your first time as a stoker, though there are rear steer tandems. I think the tandem ride is ultimately more interesting than any book reading. I've been following that project and I don't think I'm going out on a limb to

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

I have not experienced pedal strike with the Clementine on the road. While cutting through short, rutted trails of some grade, I've bumped a rock once or twice, but that would have probably happened on any bike. Though I am a former racer, I tend to not pedal through turns of 90 degrees or mo

Re: [RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

Hmm. I have not been riding the Clementine off road and I doubt I have your off-road skills. I can see where the bike could get "hung up" especially on a grade. But speed bumps with no lean, that would be purely a bb height issue, no? Are you guys both running the Compass Switchbacks? Are they

[RBW] Re: Anybody attend the Rivendell book reading for Bike Snob?

In New York, one does in fact get DMV points on their license after receiving a ticket for an infraction while operating a bicycle. On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 12:25:55 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > > Does one get points on their DMV record for tickets accrued while bike > riding? Or just have t

[RBW] Re: Anybody attend the Rivendell book reading for Bike Snob?

My take on this book (I purchased his first, and I think second, or maybe I borrowed that one) is it recycles some of his familiar themes, such as types of cyclists and their attitudes. It also takes fairly standard advice--shop for a bicycle in the winter, when business is slow and you can get

[RBW] Re: Finding fun in un-un-racing

I think this is true to an extent. But you are in an elite bracket of riders, and have obvious innate abilities combined with a keen interest in performance maximization as well as fun and comfort. When you say "But when the gains come without penalties" it's not like speed is always free. I kn

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Tandem

I don't have a whole lot of tandem experience, but I am looking forward to changing the captain's drop bars on my new-to-me Santana Vision (later changed to Fusion? Anyway, similar 26" bike with fat tire capabilities) to Albatross or similar upright bars. We've tested it enough for me to know t

[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

North wrote: "I find it galling that a couple of posters on this thread have mentioned Riv staff grabbing Irish straps as safeguards for customers on the floor but they don't make that knowledge public via the website. Shame on 'em!" Welcome to RBW Owners Bunch! I'm sure you're a nice guy and t

Re: [RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

I wouldn't say a noob mistake, Zed. I do think the pedals on the Clems are lower than your average bear, and, perhaps combined with the long cs, might need some getting used to, depending on your riding style/terrain. For comparison, the JA in the 52cm 650b size has a bb drop of 68.9, with 52c

Re: [RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

Notwithstanding Jeremy's report, which is great to read. Are you intending it for mainly traditional singletrack duties, or will you be switching back and forth (tires, wheelsets)?Other than dirt paths and a one-mile loop of singletrack, I can't really get to mountain biking trails without a car

[RBW] Re: Lost Boys Ride Rivendells

Yes, but uh-oh, right before the awesome grilling footage, a bicycle careening down the road with a fagot of branches precariously perched on a front basket! Dangerous! Wait, Rivendell doesn't sell sticks--at least not yet. (But do its axes come with a warning that you could chop off a toe?) I

[RBW] Re: Has RBW been arund long enough to have a "Renaissance?"

The seller is no doubt referring to the fact that wool was big business during the Renaissance. So big that the pasturing of sheep drove many off the land, especially in England, and eventually resulted in enclosure laws, complete with hedges. The end of the commons, as it were. Many unhappy pe

[RBW] Re: Rivendell Tandem

Hi Michael. When I said "tandem rally speedster" I was referring entirely to the bicycle. From what I can see, the majority of models from most tandem-specific makers are versions of the popular style of bicycle for club riding, regardless of age--tires on the skinny side, drop bars, latest bel

[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

I really don't know the history of the Ocean Air/Mark's rack, but they currently sell (out of stock) the Mark's rack in both "factory configured" and "rambler mount," so your work there is not yet done. Just from reading the post linked to in the product description, it seems they made the mod

[RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

I was using the terminology on Ocean Air. On the product page, they say: *For a modest up charge, we can modify the rack so that it will bolt right up to your Rambler. And it links to a page showing them bending the rear st

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr, 7 month and 2200 miles in

Cool pix. Relaxed, Very Relaxed, Fairly Sporty. Sounds like shopping for jeans! I still get confused, but that's another story. I have the stoc

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

As a recent purchaser of an Islabikes Beinn 24, I got a promo email in my box this morning. The secret is out! Looks like they are ready to take the ch

[RBW] Re: Another new Appaloosa

C'mon, it's pretty obvious why you *really* bought it. Guy named Joe buys bike named Joe, gets last name (dog breed) legally changed (horse breed). Talk about a custom bike! I thought I liked the butterscotch but that palish built-in swimming pool blue has great energy. Sharp build, too. I h

Re: [RBW] Re: A bit offtopic discussion of RivBike's shipping times

They won't be commonplace forever. You might look at Brexit as the beginning of the end of globalization. Why? In a nutshell, because there are limits to growth, and we are hitting them, big time. Sorry to burst anybody's bubble, but our kids will not be getting packages delivered via Amazon dr

Re: [RBW] Re: A bit offtopic discussion of RivBike's shipping times

The Rivendell CR720 price is for a bike's worth, Niagra's is for one brake. In any case, I think it's clear from some of the comments on this thread, and from common sense basic understanding of small business, why Rivendell doesn't offer the lowest price available on the internet for many of th

[RBW] Clementine Climbs a Mountain

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[RBW] Re: Clementine Climbs a Mountain

I agree. In that sense probably a little like toe overlap. On bikes that have it, once your body is aware, it happens less. I imagine some people with certain 650b conversions deal with this phenomena. And in fact, the higher bb drop on the Clems is a feature, not a bug, an adjustment of the ol

[RBW] Re: WTB (Maybe): 3 MTB straight(ish) handlebars

Dang...too late! (Side note: as manager of a Habitat ReStore, I've seen my more-than-fair-share of "Take my bars, please" donations!;^). Grimly mocking grin. On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 2:23:27 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I think we all have at least one of these collecting dust somewhere.

[RBW] Re: Clementine Climbs a Mountain

Joe, that is my thought, too. I am by no means a bicycle designer, but you don't need to be to understand that those particular parameters are a large part of what makes a Clem a Clem. You give up a certain nimbleness on a trail perhaps, but you gain that luxurious, super fun handling, plenty e

[RBW] Re: Clementine Climbs a Mountain

The Bosco Bulls were fantastic on the descent--much more so than other bars, including drops set kind of high and the straight bars on a Trek 990, which made me feel like I could be pitched over, and also left me with "pumped" forearm muscles--ouchy. You can see the bars on the early 90s Tre

[RBW] Re: Clementine Climbs a Mountain

Not wanting to extend this discussion too much, it's not really a matter of positive vs. negative, add some this, subtract some that, fiddling with things, back and forth, until...Voila! The Perfect Bicycle Is Created. Everybody please go home, the work is done. Now *that* would be putting som

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