Oh, and I should note that this IRD specificity is noted in the "hub
dimensions" document on Phil Wood's site. Where, interestingly, it
does *not* list the dimensions for the IRD-intended hubs.
I should also add that I suspect that this IRD difference is actually
a modern usage by IRD of a standar
Anyone else planning on engaging in the .83 FHR insanity that occurs
on the same route/same day? They're a fun bunch o' bike lovers, and
Riv is actually a sponsor (yay, Riv!). I'll be in tweed on my
Hillborne; say hi. Oh, they have free beer, too.
sean
PS I ran into a local on a double-toptube Hi
Thomas,
I'm not sure what "really" cold is (live in the south), but I have a
new Shimano freewheel on my Atlantis and it's worked great so far.
Friday's commute to work was 19 degrees, the one prior to that was in
the low 20s with several inches of snow. Today, a more typical low
50s :-)
These h
Ray,
Sorry about the crash...those are never good.
If it were me, and it's not, but if it were I would see if the Nitto
handlebars were bent.
If they were not bent I would keep using them.
If it really bothers you, replace them.
There are also "crack check" (dye penetrant) kits out there...at a
Pardon me, but could you help me understand why the bike wouldn't fit
on a hitch or roof rack? Maybe all you need is a second set of wheels
and a nice Saris hitch rack?
michael
On Feb 13, 10:41 am, JimP wrote:
> I have a Sam Hillborne which I love, I ordered it with a 56 cm frame
> and, as it
Dear Ray,
I am sorry to hear about your accident, and I hope you mend quickly
and completely. I recall reading in one of the Rivendell readers an
interview of the owner of Nitto by Grant Petersen. My understanding
from the article is that Nitto makes very strong handlebars, and
performs rigorous
Assuming equal number of top tubes, my guess is that the Sam falls
between the Hilsen and the Atlantis, based on its description on
rivbike.com: "It's a cross between the Atlantis, our cantilever-braked
touring bike, and the A. Homer HIlsen, our roadish country bike. "It's
a cross..." means it has
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:57 PM, james wrote:
> fwiw I've also had one ird freewheel fail on me entirely and the one
> i'm using right now 'freezes' when the weather gets cold. i
> appreciate the info on the cold and the grease, but i would like to
> know also if there are other good freewheels
The difference between the touring and IRD as far as I know is in the
spacers or endcaps, this was published somewhere in the iBOB archives
in the last two years. As for the specs from phil, they are in a slow
process of fixing their published data, call them and they are great
on the phone. The
Thank you all for your advice and for the well-wishes. Worse for me than the
injuries is the long recovery and rehab period -- just as the ideal riding
weather comes upon us. Very frustrating.
I have not yet mentioned this, but I actually was making a "panda" video with a
helmet cam when t
Rambouillet, size 56, complete bicycle minus pedals and saddle.
$1700 (price includes the cost of professional packing and shipping in
the continental US)
I will be sad to see this bicycle go. The orange Rambouillet paint is
dazzling. There are many nice components in the deal - see list
below.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Ray Shine wrote:
> Thank you all for your advice and for the well-wishes. Worse for me than
> the injuries is the long recovery and rehab period -- just as the ideal
> riding weather comes upon us. Very frustrating.
>
> I have not yet mentioned this, but I actual
Will do.
From: Seth Vidal
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 6:44:14 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Should I fret over crashed h'bars?
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Ray Shine wrote:
> Thank you all for your advice and for the w
Guess I ned to get out more as I had no idea there were IRD freewheel
specific hubs. Seems counterintuitive to me.
All my multigear bikes have freewheels as I use vintage hubs. While I
have a pretty good store of NOS freewheels, I was happy to see IRD
coming out with a new line of freewheels, as
I have some photos up from my camera phone - and a write-up on the
blog:
http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/all-tires-welcome/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/sets/72157625919265243/
The route is worth studying for anyone planning a vacation in San
Diego. Wow! Thanks, Dustin!
The Chief Inspector approves.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:37 AM, stevep33 wrote:
> Rambouillet, size 56, complete bicycle minus pedals and saddle.
> $1700 (price includes the cost of professional packing and shipping in
> the continental US)
>
> I will be sad to see this bicycle go. The orange Ra
Hard to explain but we take 5 dogs and luggage including astronomy gear. I just
prefer to have a second bike and not carry one back and forth. Perhaps just an
excuse.
JimP
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:26 AM, MichaelH wrote:
> Pardon me, but could you help me understand why the b
Did you check to make sure the bolt holding the cable guide under the bottom
bracket isn't interfering?
Jon Jandoc
Los Angeles, CA
On Feb 13, 2011, at 8:06 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> Just puttering about with the new-to-us minilantis today & decided to
> check the BB. Bike is used, several ye
> Technically the IRD freewheels are not user-serviceable. If anyone has hints
> as to how to get into the innards of an IRD freewheel without destroying
> them, I'd love to hear them.
This is not IRD specific, so I have no idea if the instructions are
any good for IRD, but here.s some info fr
IRD freewheels are just Shimano-compatible freewheels, man. Nothing special.
You dont need to use IRD...I wouldnt.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:18 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Oh, and I should note that this IRD specificity is noted in the "hub
> dimensions" docume
The only issue with posting the video to the group would be if it runs more
than 90 seconds - that's the Flickr Limit.
If not, I'd suggest Vimeo or the YouTube and then sharing the link. Neither
limit content by length.
--
Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net
Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries
Here's a shout back! That was me and I remember that conversation
about the FHR. If I wasn't already registered with Cascade I'd join
you. Hell, maybe I'll join you anyway. Any note on what ferry the .
83r's are taking?
The other Brian
On Feb 14, 1:37 am, soapscum wrote:
> Anyone else planni
Yes, I saw that limit. I'll ponder it all. If I post elsewhere, I'll send a
link.
From: CycloFiend
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:39:38 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Should I fret over crashed h'bars?
The only issue with po
Hi!
Well... okay.
It's just that the Shimano freewheel I purchased from RBW doesn't work on my
wheel, which has a hub that is nominally for an IRD freewheel.
There was plenty of room between the stay and the small cog. I didn't
cross-thread it or anything. It screwed on (and off, thank goodnes
> I've been informed by a person with direct experience (to say the least) that
> I could expect a 6-speed Suntour Winner or Winner Pro or a 7-speed Suntour
> Winner "compact" freewheel to work on my wheel.
I second the advice if this works for you. I have Winner Pros and am
very happy with the
I've been using Sunrace freewheels for several years and I've had no
issues with them - none, zero. They shift fine and seem to last quite
a long time.
On Feb 14, 5:28 am, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:57 PM, james wrote:
> > fwiw I've also had one ird freewheel fail on me entir
Well, I hate to ask... but...
1) Do you ride regularly in wet weather?
2) Do you ride regularly in cold (sub-freezing? sub-zero?) weather?
3) Do you have a Phil Wood hub nominally intended for an IRD freewheel?
4) Are you using modern Shimano 8-speed shifters (e.g. the 8-speed bar-ends
sold by RB
Wow, very pretty bike. If it were either a 52 or a 62, I would snap
it up, even though I already own a blue Rambouillet! How'd you get
the fenders so shiny, I clean my once a year, but they never look like
new anymore, or were they new when you tok the pics?
Somebodies gonna get a hellofa nice r
Thanks! The pictures were taken on Saturday, so the fenders are old
(2K miles).
A little bit of polish does the trick.
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/simichrome-metal-polish.html
On Feb 14, 3:12 pm, MichaelH wrote:
> Wow, very pretty bike. If it were either a 52 or a 62, I would snap
>
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, stevep33 wrote:
> Rambouillet, size 56, complete bicycle minus pedals and saddle.
> $1700 (price includes the cost of professional packing and shipping in
> the continental US)
>
> I will be sad to see this bicycle go. The orange Rambouillet paint is
> dazzling.
Here's an email from a few months ago, i believe it's a slight spacing
optimization on the IRD phil wood hubs that make them special, but
that you can use regular free-wheels as well.
-
The whole IRD/Riv FW thing confuses everyone I've talked to about it.
The guys
Mystery solved - it's the ID of the lock ring.
The original Tange BBs came with an aluminum ring that measures
nominally 23 mm ID where it contacts the cartridge. Shimano uses a
plastic ring measuring 24.5 mm at the same point. Attempting to use
the Tange lockring on a Shimano cartridge places a
Hi, all.
I hope this isn't a duplicate... I thought I already responded but I can't find
evidence of it in my e-mail... anyway...
Thanks so much for digging up that post.
I am *definitely* going to have to try the Shimano again. Too many people think
it should work. I know it didn't work for m
With all the vintage hubs in my collection, I have never bothered
looking at Riv's hubs page.
I still do not understand the desire to buy a new 135 freewheel hub.
PW along with many other companies make perfectly fine casette hubs in
that size.
The PW freewheel products page was not loading for m
After almost 12 years, a front hub that matches the rear, thanks to
John Cully. Cross posted to ensure maximum drool. I just picked up
this new front wheel and installed it for its inaugural ride.
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/BIKESMISCELLANEA#5573667399477615730
et sequentia.
I still th
> I still do not understand the desire to buy a new 135 freewheel hub.
> PW along with many other companies make perfectly fine casette hubs in
> that size.
IIRC, there is a few hundred dollars difference in cost.
-Allan
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> IIRC, there is a few hundred dollars difference in cost.
But then one has to wonder whether it would be better getting a
Shimano Cassette for less than the PW FW - or perhaps a White
Industries H3 Casette hub priced a little more than the PW FW hub but
a lot less than the PW Cassette.
On Feb 14
It's the Cheviot, a hardy breed that lives in the hilly border area
btw England and Scotland...originally, at least, and lots are still
there.
There is a Cheviot Society,and even an American Cheviot Sheep Society
http://www.cheviotsheep.org/index.html
You can find all kinds of Cheviot images on t
Too cool Grant! Thank you for the follow up. I've seen Chevoit in
real life. Very handsome critters.
Can't wait to add to my collection of cardigans.
On Feb 14, 4:56 pm, grant wrote:
> It's the Cheviot, a hardy breed that lives in the hilly border area
> btw England and Scotland...originally,
Hi!
- JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> I still do not understand the desire to buy a new 135 freewheel hub.
> PW along with many other companies make perfectly fine casette hubs in
> that size.
Wheel strength.
Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted all
implied or s
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
wrote:
>
> Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted all
> implied or stated outright that a wheel built around a Phil Wood IRD-style FW
> hub would be stronger than one built with a cassette hub, all else equal.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> So what makes this
> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub?
I meant, "stronger than the Phil cassette hub," of course.
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https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5532022105094813442
50% wool, nice but a bit too tight for me especially if I want to wear
a thin layer underneath. Will probably fit someone best who is about
5'8" or 9" and 160 or so (I am a long-torso'd 5'10" and 170).
--
Patrick Moore
Albuquerqu
Just measured again: length from bottom of collar (ie seam) to tail is
more like 27". Width is 19" pit-to-pit.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:09 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5532022105094813442
>
> 50% wool, nice but a bit too tight for me especially if I w
I have a 10.5 lb mini dachsund. I'm guessing your dogs are a tad
larger.
michael
On Feb 14, 11:41 am, Jim Phillips wrote:
> Hard to explain but we take 5 dogs and luggage including astronomy gear. I
> just prefer to have a second bike and not carry one back and forth. Perhaps
> just an excuse.
I'd guess that a second Sam Hill might be a good choice for a "second
location" bike that will be used on pavement and dirt. I had one, and
while I didn't like the handling -- the front seemed to wander, though
this may have been due to the fact that I had the bar a good 4 or 5
inches above those o
Will the 650B cantilever braked Roadeo model be called the
"Cheviot" ?
On Feb 14, 3:02 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Too cool Grant! Thank you for the follow up. I've seen Chevoit in
> real life. Very handsome critters.
>
> Can't wait to add to my collection of cardigans.
>
> On Feb 14, 4:56 pm, g
Farm 200 miles away, already enough stuff to carry on frequent trips? No
excuses -- I¹d say that makes a good argument for another bike at the farm.
If the budget allowed another Rivendell, I¹d be likely to choose a
Hunqapillar or a Bombadil, considering the more rural nature of the
location. Regar
I saw this listing on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-TREK-520-LUGGED-FRAME-AND-FORK-RIVENDELL-GEOMETRY-/250770864553?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3a631bb9a9
Somebody selling a 1983 Trek 520. He puts Rivendell in the title,
presumably to attract potential buyers. That in itself is
interesting, that a
> In spite of that appeal, I remain open to the idea that all of my old wheel
> problems would have been basically solved with a 36-hole Phil Wood/Synergy
> O/C cassette wheel (I have and sometimes use two XT/Synergy O/C wheels,
> having had only minor and probably-solved issues) or a 40-hole Ph
> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole
> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle
> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this
> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub?
That is what I have heard as well.
Well, it has a nice ring to it. Not sure if they are the fastest
sheep in the world. At least not when their wool is fully grown out
as the one in Grant's link.
On Feb 14, 6:54 pm, William wrote:
> Will the 650B cantilever braked Roadeo model be called the
> "Cheviot" ?
>
> On Feb 14, 3:02 pm,
All other things being equal, a cassette hub offers a far stronger
axle, because the axle is supported in more places and closer to the
frame dropouts. Bent or broken axles are essentially non-existent on
even the cheapest cassette hubs. Among freewheel hubs, I know of few
that are stronger than
Very annoying sales technique. Perhaps they figure for every 99
people they annoy who come looking for a Rivendell but find something
else they will get 1 person interested enough to think about bidding.
Even if I wanted the product I would not bid on a bait and switch
auction.
On Feb 14, 7:48 pm
> Cassette hub --> less likely to break an axle
> Dishless wheel --> less likely to break a spoke
One of the reasons MaxiCar hubs are built around solid axles and I
built the Campy hubs around solid E.A.I. axles.
On Feb 14, 8:05 pm, William wrote:
> All other things being equal, a cassette hub o
That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in the
hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so over-built
that even in the case of the freewheel the axle simply isn't likely to fail,
even under the likes of me!
So the idea is that uneven spoke
Thomas,
Out of curiosity, where are you riding that it is so cold? If it is
that cold and wet you may or may not have problems with diferent free
hubs freezing up as well, it can and has happened. Some manufacturers
go as far as selling their own greases / oils partially for these
reasons. If mo
Well, upon close inspection I notice what appears to be a new chip in the paint
on the interior of the drive-side dropout. So... the Shimano freewheel isn't
going to work for me as is. But it was close enough to wonder if other brands
would work. It might even be reasonable to make the Shimano w
Wheaton, IL. The -13 was a local minimum for this season. A couple years ago it
hit -20. That's not wind chill.
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
On Feb 14, 2011, at 9:06 PM, rperks wrote:
> Thomas,
> Out of curiosity, where are you riding that it is so cold? If it is
> that cold and wet you may or m
Can someone who went on the ride verify that this is the map for the route:
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/252276
I'll be in SD in April and this sounds like a perfect day ride.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Esteban wrote:
> I have some photos up from my camera phone - and a write-up on the
>
Lots of guys in the MTB world have been running the above mentioned SS
freehubs for years and think poeople like us are nuts for using
freewheels to achieve dishlessness.
Also, surefire way to revive an IRD hub
http://www.interlocracing.com/faq_warr.html
send it back for a new one, they need to kn
John:
That would be it. Mile 29.4 is where David, Jenny & I bailed out. We
took the left while the rest of the group continued on the route. You
can see how that connects to the outbound route around 15. We then
headed back up course & made a left at the intersection that's 12.7
outbound & 44.
Oh, and I'd never heard of that approach being implemented. But I've always
felt I'd be happy with 6 speeds, if they I dexed well with quality available
shifters. Alas, I fear that any solution involving 6/9-speed-cassette usage is
even more esoteric than an IRD freewheel. And, in the end, I thi
Best excuse I've heard in a long time; gotta keep that in mind except
we don't have dogs.
As to the stair thing, any bike is a hassle to lug up & down stairs.
They are kinda cumbersome even if light. A typical Riv set up
suitable for country rambling is going to be at least 25 lbs and
probably cl
I used to ride in wet and freezing weather with Sunrace
freewheelsnot with a Phil hub (Suzues) and with friction
shifters...why index, it just complicates things ? Never had a problem
either. Lube gels at low temps and dirt gets into the innards in the
heat requiring a good flushing to free the
We all know you don't have to look fast to be fast. The interwebs say
the Cheviot is a hardy breed with strong constitution and is fast
maturing. Seems to work.
On Feb 14, 6:08 pm, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Well, it has a nice ring to it. Not sure if they are the fastest
> sheep in the world. At
Hi John, it's a great route I would encourage you to take. Just be aware of
the singletrack you're going to need to take at mile 20.6. It's not marked
at all, so you have to be on the look out for it. That's where the
hike-a-bike section begins. That's just for ~half a mile though.
http://www.fl
Hey guys,
A couple of questions, 1 on topic, 1 off!
On topic first: My almost new hillborne has suffered from chainsuck
almost since day 1. Built up by Riv with all the usual Riv bits. 9 spd
SRAM chain, Sugino RD2 triple and shimano 7spd freewheel. 30 minutes
into a dusty bumpy ride (the problem
Sheesh - don't mess with a guy's excuse to get a second Rivendell! Jim - go
with a Homer. If you are longing that way, it won't let you down.
Brian (with Homer, wanting a Saluki)
On Feb 14, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Jim Phillips wrote:
> Hard to explain but we take 5 dogs and luggage including astr
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Paul Yeoh wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> A couple of questions, 1 on topic, 1 off!
>
> On topic first: My almost new hillborne has suffered from chainsuck
> almost since day 1. Built up by Riv with all the usual Riv bits. 9 spd
> SRAM chain, Sugino RD2 triple and shimano
Beeswax is rather sticky for lubing bike parts, no? I know it gummed
up the springs on my former Speedplays. Why do you add beeswax?
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Paul Yeoh wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> A couple of questions, 1 on topic, 1 off!
>
> On topic first: My almost new hillborne has suffere
I get it; comparing different things. Thanks.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
wrote:
> That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in the
> hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so
> over-built that even in the case of the
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM, grant wrote:
> It's the Cheviot, a hardy breed that lives in the hilly border area
> btw England and Scotland...originally, at least, and lots are still
> there.
> There is a Cheviot Society,and even an American Cheviot Sheep Society
>
> http://www.cheviotsheep.org
I've been riding my Sam Hillborne six days a week since last summer
with a Phil-Rivy rear hub and IRD freewheel. It has racked up
considerable mileage commuting through show, slush, slop, salt down to
single digit temperatures and I've had absolutely zero problems with
anything. FWIW, the bike wi
+1 on the pretty bike comment. A nice deal too, since there's
currently a orange rambouillet (albiet a JB painted one) on ebay
currently at $3000.
On Feb 14, 2:12 pm, MichaelH wrote:
> Wow, very pretty bike. If it were either a 52 or a 62, I would snap
> it up, even though I already own a blue
I just thought I'd show off my Quickbeam in it's new blue livery from
Newbaum's. It'd been a long year for my QB. It's become my daily ride
(save for a couple of short instances when another bike was warranted).
I've ridden it camping, done a century ride, a metric century ride,
several 60-80 m
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