Thomas, Out of curiosity, where are you riding that it is so cold? If it is that cold and wet you may or may not have problems with diferent free hubs freezing up as well, it can and has happened. Some manufacturers go as far as selling their own greases / oils partially for these reasons. If money were not the object, and wheel strentght is paramount, you could look into some of the mountain bike single speed hubs: King, Hope and DT all have single speed free hubs that will let you run the back 6 cogs of a 9sp casette. These hubs all can be built up dishless, and will index as well since it is a casette. Each has some pros and cons, like stee vs Al freehub bodies, color options or disc brake hole to ignore, but worth a look. If I burn out on freewheels that is the direction I am heading.
Rob On Feb 14, 6:20 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in the > hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so > over-built that even in the case of the freewheel the axle simply isn't > likely to fail, even under the likes of me! > > So the idea is that uneven spoke tension rises to the top of the pile of > compromises one would like to mitigate/eliminate in the built wheel. So > reduced dish, as available with an IRD-style Phil FW hub when compared to a > Phil cassette hub, becomes a more valuable component of the wheel than a > strengthened axle. > > And yes, I have bent a Shimano axle and ruined a Deore hub that way. One of > my failed wheels. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:57 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > >> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole > >> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle > >> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this > >> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? > > > That is what I have heard as well. Obviously I have no problem with > > FW hubs - I've never even owned a set of cassette hubs - but always > > thought maybe I was giving up some strength to the people riding on > > those new fangled thangs. > > > On Feb 14, 5:59 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean > > >> <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > > >>> Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted > >>> all implied or stated outright that a wheel built around a Phil Wood > >>> IRD-style FW hub would be stronger than one built with a cassette hub, > >>> all else equal. > > >> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole > >> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle > >> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this > >> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? I must admit that I am > >> skeptical of this 3-person claim, but I am open to enlightenment. > >> (Ommmmm ....) > > >> As to Phil track hubs, I learned today that the bearings on my 2Xf > >> fixed Phil are fine after almost 11K miles: the roughness was the > >> not-fully-tightened spacer. > > >> Patrick "no dish, no worries" Moore > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
