On Apr 24, 8:50 pm, Mike wrote:
>
> After the 300k two weeks ago I had a problem with my Berthoud fender
> on my Hilsen and so took them off until I could find replacement
> hardware. I ended up mounting some Schwalbe Marathon 700x40 tires on
> the Hilsen since it was fender free and enjoyed some
450 miles a month! I wish I had the time to ride that much! But excellent
story.
I'm curious about the attraction of cloth tape: what is the point of it? It
came on my Hillborne and the only reason I've not removed it for syntho cork
is that I'm lazy (and busy).
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:28 PM,
I meant to add: I find it uncomfortable -- not very much so, but certainly
not as comfortable as cork or plastic. I don't wear gloves, so perhaps that
is the reason; still, any advantages beside looks?
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 3:59 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> 450 miles a month! I wish I had the ti
Does anyone prefer dura-ace bar end shifters over silvers? The
silvers look like spears ready to impale a knee cap.
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MobileBill wrote:
As a bonus, you get a great shot on the back page of some species of
nerodia fishing for bream.
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I just love that I have to look up words I read on this list. You guys are a
lot of fun!
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Surprised - but pleased - to see someone still making a steel road
bike that small. Wheels are 26"?
Patrick: When I ride drops I use cloth without gloves (unless it is
cold, of course). I don't like the tactile sensation of cork tape.
The Portuguese grips from Riv on flat bars I do like.
On Ap
@Me: Thanks, enjoy the route. There's a few sections with traffic and
no shoulder but I'm sure you'll manage, just be mindful. This was my
first time riding this route on the weekend and there was way less
traffic than on a weekday.
@HR: I don't know what the true measurement of the tires is. I im
Scott, your daughter looks so happy in those pictures. The bike looks
really nice for her.
That's great you two will ride out to Cannon Beach, how are you
getting out there? Max to FG and then...? Hwy 6 to the coast and then
up 1? Or some other route? Have fun. Take photos and share them with
us h
Re: Cloth tape:
Com folks like the smaller diameter, it's traditional looking, it's
not slippery feeling, and when shellacked it lasts a long time.
I'm generally more comfortable on cork. I've only go one bike with
cloth, and it's got the bars way up high so there's no hand pressure
to speak of.
I had DA's on my Ram. I usually used the indexing, but kept
experimenting with friction mode. I eventually saw no reason for
indexing and left them in the friction setting. I always hated how
stiff the DA's were to operate, and had a detented, grinding feel. I
finally got some Silver levers
The action on the Silvers is way smoother. I think the DA's mount
better on Paul's Thumbies but that's the only advantage I see with
them. The only time I ever "speared" my leg with a BE shifter was on a
super steep off-road climb. It was no big deal, just caused the bike
to make an unfortunate shi
That is awesome! She looks really happy.
My kid is nine, and no way could he fit that yet - is it the smallest
size?
Philip
On Apr 24, 10:28 pm, Me wrote:
> Not entirely Rivendell-related but it involves steel tubes, practical
> things [and] will have cloth tape w/hemp twine on the handlebars b
I ride cork tape barehanded (depending on temperature), and like it,
but I've had cloth tape on the Quickbeam for four or five years, and I
prefer it on that bike. I'm thinking about switching the Bontrager to
cloth tape, too. It wraps up to a smaller bar diameter, and it gives
good grip. Basically
Man - I'm jealous of all you Portland area people. I grew up there
and did mixed terrain type riding on an old Mtn bike, which limited
the distance a little (but not the fun). Wish I could find a way to
get back there.
@HR - I am also running those Marathons - 700 X 40C (622-42). They
measure
Scott,
Congrats to you and daughter on the new build. E has outgrown her 20" and
we're in the market for something. Just borrowed a 24" K2 MTB and I don't
think I can bear to see her ride it. Overbuilt and ugly. What size frame is
the LHT and how does it fit you daughter? I like the LHT a lot, but
I like the look, feel, and durability of cloth tape, but it makes the
diameter of my bars too small for my large hands. Also, it doesn't
dampen any vibration at all. My solution has been to wrap cloth over
very tightly wrapped cork and then shellac. I like the way it looks,
feels, and lasts.
On
I've used them both, and the Silver shifter are by far easier to use
than Shimano. Silver shifters action is smooth and light, the DA is
stiff and heavy. if feels very un-natural.
That said, the Silver shifter were never intended to be used as bar
end shifters, so yes, they are potentially ha
Sorry Jon, my jargon worlds collided. Though to stay on topic, the
scene reminded me in a quirky way of Grant's favorite posted trout
photo.
On Apr 25, 7:50 am, Jon Grant wrote:
> MobileBill wrote:
>
> As a bonus, you get a great shot on the back page of some species of
> nerodia fishing for brea
Photos from the start of the ride and at Stevenson Bridge:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623804351229/
Enjoy!
--Eric
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www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.org
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I have 'laced cloth over syn-cork:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3151825733/in/set-72157604046492434/
Need to do that on my other bike, but too lazy to date.
Best of both worlds.
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:59 AM, wile wrote:
> I like the look, feel, and durability of cloth tape, but
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Philip Williamson
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> That is awesome! She looks really happy.
> My kid is nine, and no way could he fit that yet - is it the smallest
> size?
>
I bet it's a 42cm. So - one neat thing in terms of the LHT would be
that if surly keeps making them you could jus
My friend was poo-poo-ing the tweed movement a bit, and my bike finally just
couldn't stay silent:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4551044769/in/set-72157623929181002/
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scott,
i think it's awesome that you did this for your daughter. the
pictures of her riding her new 'whip' make me smile. she looks great
on the bike, and you can tell
she's got a good thing going therehere's to you and to her, and i
hope she enjoys the ride the rest of her life. i have no d
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035...@n07/4551628878/in/set-72157623929181002/
Hard to set up, especially since I used the Mavic crank, but it almost gets
every gear I want. Anyway, I'm happy to add this Heron road photo, since we
don't see enough of that model. I want to thank Todd Kuzma for b
David:
I used Silvers for the 1st time on a build out of a Riv frame I bought used. I
couldn't believe how smooth they are. Still love 'em.
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Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 9:02:13 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] silver
Thanks everyone...
yep, it's their smallest, a 42cm with 26" wheels.
Today's Lesson: How to "Trim" off her front & rear derailleurs and
shift [she's new to BarCons] with friction.
Re: Cloth Tape:
I find it comfortable. Looks are secondary to me, it works for me.
Daughter likes it too. Heck, m
Hi Mike-
Was this meant to be an email off-list [not sure]?
Anyway...
yeah, it's a 42cm LHT, their smallest, with 26" wheels.
Chloe got up this morning at 6 am, Amy & me found her asleep in the
other room...
on the floor next to her new bike.
Super cute!
-Scott
On Apr 25, 8:53 am, Michael M
Interesting take on cloth tape. I've never used cloth until my Sam Hill came
with it (Riv's old floor model); even my earliest bikes had the crappy vinyl
tape. I find it hard and rough on my bare palms, but I like the idea of
wrapping it over cork or rubber -- may try that.
I don't like twine; hav
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Jon Grant wrote:
> Jon ³Little Words² Grant, who jest larned thet a nerodia is sum kinda AHHH!
> SNAKE! in
> Austin, Texas
>
> "The short words are the best words, and if the short words are old words,
those are the best of all."
Winston Churchill
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This is a great looking bicycle. How tall is your daughter? Stand over
height?
On Apr 25, 2:41 pm, Me wrote:
> Thanks everyone...
>
> yep, it's their smallest, a 42cm with 26" wheels.
>
> Today's Lesson: How to "Trim" off her front & rear derailleurs and
> shift [she's new to BarCons] with fricti
Hi Happyriding:
For friction shifting, the Silvers as bar end shifters are much
smoother and lighter than the DA shifters in friction mode. One while
starting off from a stop, I had a knee hit the bar-end shifter, but
that was my carelessness while starting off from a stop at the end of
a long ri
I've done 26t on the low end using ultegra 10sp triple cranks and sti
levers (other rings stock for a 52-39-26). Had to put on a
chainwatcher, as it would dump the chain about half the time, but
otherwise with the watcher on, it works flawlessly. YMMV.
Bob H.
Knoxville TN
On Apr 25, 1:51 pm, Jame
The Pletscher rear rack that Rivendell sells
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/pletscher-front-or-rear-rack/20-193
It says that it works best on bikes with long forks and such. I assume
this is because of where the rack attachments would be located on the
bike. It says that it will still
SO is 27.2 w/26x1.5 rubber.
Daughter, not a clue about her height [make me a bad parent?] ;-)...
but she clears the TT by 2.5" in Chuck's/2.7" in Crocs.
-Scott
On Apr 25, 12:35 pm, Rick Smith wrote:
> This is a great looking bicycle. How tall is your daughter? Stand over
> height?
>
> On Apr 25
That a very common set up for touring bikes and tandems. Works best
with MTB dérailleurs, which I see you are using.
I'm running that set up on my tandem with Campy 10 speed ergo shifters
and an 8 speed XTR cassette. It works great.
~Mike~
On Apr 25, 1:10 pm, "Bob H." wrote:
> I've done 26t on
"have any of y'all glued the ends of cloth tape in place?
> Or shellacked it in place?"
I start on the top of the bar and wrap toward the ends, make a neat
tuck, plug it with a wine cork, and shellac the whole thing. Slap a
new coat on every year or so and it doesn't unravel - much more
durable th
Yeah, campy ergo would be better. Now that I know you can get it to index right
with Shimano in the rear, I wish I went with that set-up for the trimming that
Campy gives you in the front. Oh well.
-Jim W.
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>Sent: Apr 25, 2010 1:53 PM
>To: RBW Owner
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:56 PM, velomann wrote:
> "have any of y'all glued the ends of cloth tape in place?
>> Or shellacked it in place?"
>
> I start on the top of the bar and wrap toward the ends, make a neat
> tuck, plug it with a wine cork, and shellac the whole thing. Slap a
> new coat on ev
It's Sunday and it's raining, so I started cleaning out my work area.
I have a bunch of brand new tubes for tire sizes that I don't have. I
got them by accident last year with an order and never bothered
returning them. If someone here wants them I would send them to you
for free (just send me a c
That's a really good idea! (wrap from the ends, tuck under the hoods).
I left my Viva tape "unfinished" for almost a year, and it didn't
unroll. After a while, I wrapped with copper wire:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/4510906281/
Philip
On Apr 25, 2:22 pm, Seth Vidal wrote:
> O
I keep hearing about this slamming knee into BE shifters, but it has
never happened to me. I once skidded into the back end of a pickup,
which made a totally unnecessary panic stop on a bridge, and I
slammed my knee into the bar. I only have about 10,000 miles of
experience with them,(mostly com
I forgot to mention the tubes are Schrader valve.
On Apr 25, 5:49 pm, Johnny Alien wrote:
> It's Sunday and it's raining, so I started cleaning out my work area.
> I have a bunch of brand new tubes for tire sizes that I don't have. I
> got them by accident last year with an order and never bother
Scott, this is great.
I stared riding with my son on his first "10 speed" when he was ten.
It was one of the best decisions I ever made as a parent.
First, I found that as my son and daughter moved through puberty and
the tough teenage years, cycling helped keep the lines of
communication open.
Very righteous whip! I bet it handles nicer than the Trek 24" too and
will make those 450 monthly miles fly by even faster. I luck if I can
do 450 KM at month let alone 450 mi - nice job.
Looks like a ride that will keep her smiling for miles and miles -
Chapeau!
Ryan
On Apr 25, 11:41 am, Me
I used to poke myself in the knee frequently on the Atlantis with
Albatross bars. Mainly in slow speed turning.
Right now, have one bike set up with Shimano bar ends, one with
Silver. While I like the Silver, my actual preference is for the
Shimano shifters. Both are friction mode. Am just fi
Very cool! Congratulations to Chloe. And happy birthday!
Shaun Meehan
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The only time I am careful and pay attention to the location for the
"silver barends" is when I'm climbing out of the saddle. It seem like
I have to keep my knees inward to keep from hitting them. I bump them
occasionally and th worst of it is having to re-trim the dérailleur
position.
~Mike~
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THis is great as I think about my little kids getting bigger. Maybe
in about 5 years. But then again, my girls are teeny tiny for their
age. Looks like I should invest in a nice trail-a-bike.
For a while Rawland was getting pretty serious about kids bike with a
24"-wheeled ss mtb. What's the s
Yeah, that's what I noticed too. Unmitigated child's joy! Well done.
/leather tape.
On Apr 25, 9:33 am, Mike wrote:
> Scott, your daughter looks so happy in those pictures. The bike looks
> really nice for her.
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don't tell Grant, but I like downtubes better (with indexed rear).
Bar end shifters always seem to get knocked "out of gear" when not
riding. I find bar ends ugly too. meh. whatev.
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Hi Everyone,
Some of you may already know this, but Tom Milton died this weekend while
riding a double century in Northern California:
http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/showthread.php?14779-My-Deepest-Appreciation-to-Vlad-and-Watoni
I thought some of you may have known Tom or had interactio
It doesn't sound like that rack is very versatile:
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If you have long forks (longer than regular road forks, about like the
Hilsen or Hillborn), the struts won't reach, so you have to clamp them
on, as shown in one of the photos.
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The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down
tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only
complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of
my top-tube-mounted pump, but that's not their fault.
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So sad. Thanks for the news.
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Here's a detailed account of the events:
http://bikeridestories.blogspot.com/
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Yeah I think I am going to bypass this one but I do like the design
and the Pletscher trap.
On Apr 25, 10:15 pm, happyriding wrote:
> It doesn't sound like that rack is very versatile:
>
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> If you have long forks (longer than regular road forks, about like the
> Hilsen or Hillborn), the strut
So awesome. A new bike! What a thrill!
Outlier: I double wrap my bars with some cushioned F'zik tape and
wear gloves. Otherwise I get numb hands.
Has anyone use leather bar wrap? How does it fare in the rain?
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The trap is very convenient, but the rack is not particularly robust:
the rear support rods are alloy and not very thick and are only
riveted at the top. Don't expect these to hold two loaded grocery
bags in panniers on either side without bending. They are perfect for
light loads around town. G
Thanks.
She rolled 43.02 miles today on her new Long Haul Trucker. Nothing
but smiles the whole way. 12 miles with mom, and then I intercepted
for the remainder [while mom went home to enjoy some knitting time] of
the miles.
Chloe can now 'trim-off' both derailleurs with ease, brake from drops
Wow nice bikeI have an older blue Surly LHT and love it.
My daughter wants me to build her a single speed out of some of my
junk parts for use at college. Her senior "car photo" was her present
bike an 80's vintage mountain bike she purchased herself and rides
everywhere. You are on the
These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have
on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love
these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs
hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter
how hard you pull. I am b
My Saluki arrive from Rivendell. I bought one of the frame
specials.
Pics at : http://gallery.me.com/calmhappy1954#100129
Boy it is a comfortable ride...
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Thanks, Mike! I spent the last few days reading her trip report.
What a grand adventure! Here are some of my favorite quotes:
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I met one rollerblader this morning on a bike path in Portland, ME who
yelled to me, "Did you leave anything at home"?
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Yahooo! A new bike! I love the fenders and basket. Well done!
Ah hah! I spy dura-ace bar end shifters instead of silvers...and SRAM
brake levers. Can you explain?
Thanks
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I've been reading it too. It's amazing and certainly inspiring!
René
On 4/25/10, happyriding wrote:
> Thanks, Mike! I spent the last few days reading her trip report.
> What a grand adventure! Here are some of my favorite quotes:
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> I met one rollerblader this morning on a bike path i
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