[RBW] ISO Stephen who wanted Riv Logos

2009-12-04 Thread Jon Grant
Sorry to use the list for this, but I¹d like to hear from Stephen who asked for Rivendell logo files last week. I¹ve emailed him directly a couple of times with no response. -- Jon ³Papa² Grant Illustration + Information Graphics Austin, Texas jgr...@papagrant.com 512-284-9599 Drawings ‹ all sort

[RBW] Re: Waxing Well

2009-12-04 Thread Will
<< Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments. I've used it on a Baggins with positive results. Hot weather, a heat gun or oven helps the wax to flow into the fabric.>> I second the vote for the Filson wax (www.filson.com/sm-one-can-of-oil- finish-wax--pi-2092385.html). S

Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well

2009-12-04 Thread Ron Farnsworth
I hope the Filsen Paste Wax finish is made from something different than the Filson Boot Oil which goes on easy and looks great, but has a tendency to cause mold in humid weather when used on leather. I've had this happen a number of times and have switched to Obenauf's because of this.  --- On

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!

2009-12-04 Thread Kris
Without a doubt the best packing I have seen for any bike ever. In my few years of bike shop employment I probably packed 50 bikes or so for shipping. I did not have the skill, patience, or materials to come anywhere close to Riv's standards. Rivendell clearly takes pride in this part of the sal

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Kris
I can't see how anyone here would find this to be heresy. I think we all accept racers need a light & nimble bike, but object to the marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never get comfortable. This is easily the #1 misconception about Rivendell & Grant - "Grant hates rac

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread JoelMatthews
> marketing of these bikes to the 52 yr old casual rider who can never > get comfortable. Agree except for the assumption that people who do not race are somehow 'casual riders.' In fact, I find more the opposite to be true. Someone who uses their bike to ride to work, shop, access cultural and

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread David Faller
I second the motion. Most "serious" riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge kit. Looks the p

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Bruce
Keven (of RBW) races CX iirc, on a Legolas. Another rider in recent memory captured a national age group title on a Legolas as well, I remember reading. I can get my Ram down to 20 lbs and race it (and it out handles many more carboneseque racers), although the problem with that is my legs don'

RE: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Well, I'm mostly an interested reader of the posts here, rather than an active poster/participant in the discussions. And I'm about as far from a racer as one can get -- a 56 year old guy with a recently resurrected interest in bikes and riding, prompted in equal measures by the need for better

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Timothy Whalen
How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Do you find a few pounds difference on the bike make a noticeable difference in the ride? Thanks, Tim On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Bruce wrote: > Keven (of RBW) races CX iirc, on a Legolas. Another rider in recent memory > captured a national age group

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Esteban
How about Hilsen as a 650B randonneur: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kaptainamerika/4154581242/in/pool-650b Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 4, 7:49 am, Timothy Whalen wrote: > How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs?  Do you find a few pounds difference > on the bike make a noticeable difference

[RBW] WAS: AHH as a road bike NOW: Judgment

2009-12-04 Thread Jon Grant
David Faller wrote: I second the motion. Most "serious" riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread JoelMatthews
>But the tone of disdain for racers who aren't as interested as "we" are in the >fine points of the bike as a beautiful >machine, but simply see it as a tool >for their particular kind of exercise, seems misguided to me. > Any bike that's on the road -- with the possible exception of those under

[RBW] Re: WAS: AHH as a road bike NOW: Judgment

2009-12-04 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 4, 11:01 am, Jon Grant wrote: > What does it matter? I¹ve seen skinny kids on bright-colored, narrow-barred > fixies; poorly-dressed folks on cheap mountain bikes; commuters on all sorts > of bikes; fat, skinny, old, and young folks on bikes that cost thousands > more than my Riv custom. Ea

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Mike
I've found randonneuring to be a happy medium between racing and ... well I don't know what, "serious" riding? When I first started cycling "seriously" (ie every single day I had off work for 8 to 9hrs and early in the morning before work and school) I did do some mountain bike races. It was an int

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread jim_OLP
Thanks for those links. I love the belt concept but I was really unimpressed with the part about it popping off the cog unless everything is perfectly aligned. After a couple of painful mashups like Bob describes, how could you ever trust the thing? > I don't remember if i've posted these links t

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I have ridden a belt drive bike that was a sort of an early proof-of- concept/prototype bike for Speedhound, and was suitably impressed with the quiet-ness and lack of the "mushy" feel I expected for some reason. It is a nice idea, but limited to freewheeling single-speeds and IGHs, which are two d

Re: [RBW] Re: A bicycle for my fifty something year old mother.

2009-12-04 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've not ridden a Milano, but I have ridden chromo Japanese mixtes, and those, too, can be dogs, compared to a good road frame, anyway. Of course, there are so many variables that it is hard to pronounce on the key causes, but I would guess that a good aluminum frame with good tires will be better

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread Shaun Meehan
There was a thread about the belt-drive Trek Soho on a commuting forum that I occasionally participarte in. Three Soho owners chimed in and two of them said that after a period of time, their belts became very loud. Gates worked with one of them (through their Trek dealer) and they were able to qui

[RBW] FS: Added some 105 triple cranks and 4pr sunglasses to the pile...

2009-12-04 Thread jinxed
Winter cleaning yea? I have some random stuff, but added these: 105 5500 series triple cranks with bottom bracket. NOS. $150 shipped Bunch of sunglasses...I can only wear my prescription pair now, so I'm cleaning the drawer. Oakley polarized monster pups - $65 Optic nerve Membranes - $30 (4 lens

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/4/09 7:11 AM, David Faller at dfal...@charter.net wrote: I second the motion. Most "serious" riders (racers) that I encounter have a sole focus. They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for anything other than sporting equipment. The bike doesn't fit right, is ill-maintained,

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread BPustow
In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:49:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, whalen...@gmail.com writes: How do you get your Ram down to 20 lbs? Actually, pretty easy. I got mine under 20 lbs by using Campy Record 10 speed components and Mavic Ksyrium SL wheels - which I find to be indestructib

[RBW] Re: Waxing Well

2009-12-04 Thread sanjoser
that sounds like a great idea. However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather bits. any advice on that? best s On Dec 3, 7:15 am, mcrawford wrote: > Filson makes a paste wax for re-proofing their waxed cotton garments.

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Aaron Thomas
Very interesting, as I'm a Campy fan. Is this the Record gruppo with alloy cranks and levers or carbon? Do you have any photos online? On Dec 4, 10:07 am, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/4/2009 10:49:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,   > > whalen...@gmail.com writes: > > How do  you ge

Re: [RBW] Re: Waxing Well

2009-12-04 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/4/09 10:13 AM, sanjoser at thomas.savar...@gmail.com wrote: > that sounds like a great idea. > However, my bags are full of road grit. I'd like to clean > them somehow before applying the wax without damaging the leather > bits. > any advice on that? I was just going to throw my Baggins Ban

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread BPustow
In a message dated 12/4/2009 1:51:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com writes: Very interesting, as I'm a Campy fan. Is this the Record gruppo with alloy cranks and levers or carbon? Do you have any photos online? It's the carbon Record gruppo. I had not intended to use th

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread Bill Connell
Same here. The real appeal of belt-drive would be a system that stayed cleaner and quieter with less maintenance. There isn't enough wrong with a chain-drive system to settle for anything less. Bill On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Shaun Meehan wrote: > There was a thread about the belt-drive Tre

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!

2009-12-04 Thread newenglandbike
Congratulations on the new QB man- you're psyched! I agree with the above post- Rivendell's packaging standards are pretty out of this world. Your bike will be travelling in comfort to say the least. On Dec 3, 10:58 pm, "Robert F. Harrison" wrote: > When I checked my personal email after

[RBW] 62cm Upgraded Quickbeam for "Sale"

2009-12-04 Thread Frank
Pretty much looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/2335320807/ The Deal: 1) You donate $500 to the Val Kleitz Benefit Fund via PayPal. Go to http://www.rideyourbike.com/ and follow the link to Aaron’s PayPal Account. 2) You donate $750 to the Thornton Creek School (Expedition

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread jim_OLP
Bicycle chains have been refined and improved for well over 100 years now. Belts are the future. Once there's a belt that's reliable AND has a coupling, or a way to cut and re-bond it - so we can install it on existing frames - look out. I know about the Speedhound frame but it's very expensive

[RBW] Re: 62cm Upgraded Quickbeam for "Sale"

2009-12-04 Thread stevep33
A Quickbeam cannot be more nicely equipped than that. A good deal for a good cause. Makes me wish it was my size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To uns

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:16 -0800, jim_OLP wrote: > Bicycle chains have been refined and improved for well over 100 years > now. Belts are the future. Once there's a belt that's reliable AND > has a coupling, or a way to cut and re-bond it - so we can install it > on existing frames - look out.

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Patrick in VT
On Dec 4, 11:03 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > However, if you look around most riding web sites, and engage in > conversation with people about bikes on a regular basis, there is a > decidedly marked tendency to refer to racers and racing bikes as > 'serious' and other uses 'casual.' my poodles feel

Re: [RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 14:30 -0800, Patrick in VT wrote: > my poodles feel the same way. they take offense to being grouped in > the "non-sporting" breed group, especially when we see all those pudgy > labradors with custom collars and haughty weimaraners, who really look > the part with those sle

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Tracking Number!!!

2009-12-04 Thread Robert F. Harrison
You guys are all making the packing sound so good maybe I'll just leave it packed for a few days and admire it. Now back to reality. :-) Aloha! On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:20 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > Congratulations on the new QB man- you're psyched! I agree with > the above post- Rivend

[RBW] When and where to get a frame repainted.

2009-12-04 Thread J L
I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? Are there multiple options? I am either going to go one of two ways - single color no decals, or nice multi-color riv-ish paint with original decals. Is it feasible to never get it pa

[RBW] Re: Wanted 13/30 7 spd cassette

2009-12-04 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Longleaf Bicycles appears to carry them: http://www.longleafbicycles.com/products/components/cassettes-chains-freewheels/seven-speed-cassettes/ Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Dec 2, 12:55 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Harris Cycles has the HG-50 7 spd 13-30 for $30.  Lickton's has it at > $27.95.  I

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam and Carbon Belt Drive

2009-12-04 Thread jim_OLP
At present, yes. I also think internal gear hubs are the future, although a lot of improvement is needed there, too. Some one will probably come up with a belt that can be "derailled" but only by some new sort of derailleur. On Dec 4, 4:19 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 1

[RBW] Re: When and where to get a frame repainted.

2009-12-04 Thread Phil Brown
On Dec 4, 4:00 pm, J L wrote: > I have an older Riv that could use a new skin. > > Where in the San Francisco area should I look to get it painted? > > -Jason Here in The Bay Area I'd call Ed Litton but you could also just send it to Joe Bell for that factory fresh feeling. Phil Brown -- You

[RBW] Re: When and where to get a frame repainted.

2009-12-04 Thread charlie
I think it depends on your budget. In my area ( Seattle ) I paid about $300 for a single color paint job which seemed high for a bicycle frame but in fairness there was quite a bit of masking for chrome etc. I later did another bike with powdercoating and only paid $75 for a two layer metallic clea

[RBW] Re: AHH as a road bike

2009-12-04 Thread John McMurry
On Dec 3, 9:34 am, Shawn wrote: > I have been thinking of making my Hilsen > more of a roadish type bike to use on week-end rides with my friends > on our smooth local MUP. > Is the Rambouillet a better road bike than the Hilsen? I don't think so. The Rambouillet has about 5mm less of the exact

[RBW] early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm

2009-12-04 Thread Forrest
I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. The frame is a work of art and in wonderful shape (built by Joe Starck and painted by Joe Bell,

[RBW] Re: Berthoud Saddle Review

2009-12-04 Thread ReneVietto
Hi John. I'm just very curious how the saddle stands up to rain. You mentioned you had been putting in mostly rainy miles. Did you use a saddle cover? How'd the saddle behave? Corwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post t

[RBW] Re: early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm

2009-12-04 Thread rcnute
Does it come with antifreeze? On Dec 4, 7:06 pm, Forrest wrote: > I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive > at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- > Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end of this post. > > The frame is a work o

Re: [RBW] early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm

2009-12-04 Thread cyclotourist
Ahh, I love that bike!!! How long is the top tube? On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Forrest wrote: > I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive > at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- > Rounder. Pics on Flickr at the link at the end

[RBW] Re: early heads-up FS notice: All-Rounder 59cm

2009-12-04 Thread Forrest
That can be arranged. On Dec 4, 10:10 pm, rcnute wrote: > Does it come with antifreeze? > > On Dec 4, 7:06 pm, Forrest wrote: > > > > > I'll be posting a more detailed listing in a day or so after I arrive > > at an asking price, but I'm going to be selling my Rivendell 59cm All- > > Rounder. P