Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
the same bike with different names. I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and
I'm told now that it is no longer being made. But it looks very
similar to the Homer Hilsen which looks very similar to the Bleroit
(sp?). Perhaps I'm not kn
I'm sure here are several differences, but the most significant is
that AHH was built around the new XL reach Tektro 556 brakes. Fits
bigger tires.
On Mar 24, 7:38 am, GeorgeS wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
> the same bike with different names. I bo
Also: The Bleriot (discontinued) was a made in Taiwan, budget version
of the Saluki, which was one of the early RBW 650B models. The line
between the Saluki and the AHH is a little blurry. I seem to recall
that the AHH was initially the same as the Saluki, but available in
larger sizes and with 70
on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
> the same bike with different names. I bought a Rambouillet in 05 and
> I'm told now that it is no longer being made. But it looks very
> similar to the Homer Hilsen
Similar, yes; but different enough to cause much hand-wringing and
consternation among Rambouillet fans when that model was discontinued.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:38 AM, GeorgeS wrote:
>
> Is it my imagination, or are a number of the RBW frames essentially
> the same bike with different names.
Even recognizing all this, when you stand back a bit, it does seem like all
of the Riv models are converging around the concept of "fat tire
all-rounder." Some, like the Bomba and Atlantis, use a bit stouter tubing
than the others, but the geometries and clearances are pretty similar.
I feel lik
I think there are two distinctions that are helpful in separating the
bikes into overarching categories: place of manufacture and the
expanded geometry. The hillborne falls in the budget/less expensive
category (like the bleriot b/f it) b/c of its taiwanese place of
manufacture, yet is unlike th
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Rick wrote:
> We could plot them in a graph along these two
> perpendicular axes (taiwan-japan, expanded geo - not). Or perhaps, in
> terms of relative distance/direction from a core ideal, like, say, the
> AHH.
Wow, you can tell someone here is an engineer of so
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 13:41 -0700, Rick wrote:
> I think there are two distinctions that are helpful in separating the
> bikes into overarching categories: place of manufacture and the
> expanded geometry. The hillborne falls in the budget/less expensive
> category (like the bleriot b/f it) b/c
> Trouble with that is it ignores tire width, type of brakes, "sportiness"
> and "geometry as it affects handling, not size".- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
You're right, it does. And brake type is key to AHH. But accepting
that the all-rounder theme prevails, user tire width is
TEASE!
On Mar 24, 2:32 pm, dpco wrote:
> i have decided to take my frame off the market.
> don
>
> On Mar 23, 8:26 pm, Donald Compton wrote:
>
>
>
> > sold
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, CycloFiend wrote:
>
> > > From: CycloFiend
> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: blue rambo for sale
> > > To: rbw-owners-b
I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary.
Can you elaborate on the Legolas? I don't see many of these around
and not much information seems to be available.
Thanks.
On Mar 24, 9:35 am, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 3/24/09 4:38 AM, GeorgeS at chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
on 3/24/09 8:01 AM, boomer at phil...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary.
> Can you elaborate on the Legolas? I don't see many of these around
> and not much information seems to be available.
>
Legolas was designed as a cross-specific (cyc
Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a
threadless setup?
On Mar 24, 12:01 pm, boomer wrote:
> I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary.
> Can you elaborate on the Legolas? I don't see many of these around
> and not much information seems to be
Some time, not too far back, there was a discussion of the "heavy" 753 tube set
used on early Rivendells made by Waterford. Having time on my hands tonight, I
dragged a scale out in the garage and weighed my bikes. All were weighed as
is, with regular (in my case 28 to 37 mm) tires, brass bells
Thanks for posting this. A few years ago I did a similar experiment
with my Ram, SOMA, and world championship, Marinoni classic steel
racing frame. The differences were (2 lbs) too small for a
recreational cyclist to worry about.
In the last few days I have been in communication with Rodriguez
Vertical compliance
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:37 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote:
>
> Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a
> threadless setup?
>
>
>
> On Mar 24, 12:01 pm, boomer wrote:
> > I'm new to the Rivendell line of bikes, so thanks for your summary.
> > Can you elabora
My '95 Road Std. weighs around 21 lb, maybe a tick less, including
bottle cages but no pump or bags. It has a few lighter-than-average
parts on it (American Classic seatpost and rear hub, Dia Compe BRS200
brake calipers, Speedplay X1 pedals). Tires are Vittoria Rubino Pro
28 mm (~270 gm IIRC), t
I'll bet the rider weight to structure weight ratio is about 7.5 to
one, an amazing relationship given the variety of stresses a bicycle
encounters on the road. Bicycles are THE MOST efficient form of
transportation ever devised aside from soaring off mountain sides in
sailplanes.
Steve
On Mar
i would guess a mixture of weight and strength considerations, the
advantages of which are apparent for a full-on racing bicycle.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote:
>
> Speaking o' the Legolas, anybody know why it was spec'd with a
> threadless setup?
>
>
>
>
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On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Bill M. wrote:
> The 'less than a full water bottle' arguement always seems specious to
> me. I don't carry less water to make up for a heavier bike.
That's not the point of that argument. The point is that- at least
IME- no one complains that the weight of thei
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Bruce wrote:
>
> Early Rivendell with "stout" tubes : 22 lbs 650B 32mm tires
> Nashbar Mark III with 26" wheelset: 23 lbs 559 28 mm tires
> Rambouillet: 24 lbs 559 32 mm
> tires
> Saluki (with fenders and fro
What about sailboats?
On Mar 24, 6:44 pm, Steve wrote:
> I'll bet the rider weight to structure weight ratio is about 7.5 to
> one, an amazing relationship given the variety of stresses a bicycle
> encounters on the road. Bicycles are THE MOST efficient form of
> transportation ever devised asi
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