Some time, not too far back, there was a discussion of the "heavy" 753 tube set 
used on early Rivendells made by Waterford. Having time on my hands tonight, I 
dragged a scale out in the garage and weighed my bikes.  All were weighed as 
is, with regular (in my case 28 to 37 mm) tires, brass bells, steel railed 
leather saddles, and saddle bags (these were emptied though) Things like pedals 
and bottle cages, and cylcometers are all attached. Many of you know that the 
manufacturers who tout how light their bikes are take much of this stuff off 
and fit the skinniest, thinnest tires they can on for the weighing.

Early Rivendell with "stout" tubes : 22 lbs      650B  32mm tires
Nashbar Mark III with 26" wheelset: 23 lbs     559     28 mm tires
Rambouillet:                                   24 lbs     559     32 mm tires
Saluki (with fenders and front rack )  27.5 lbs   650B   37 mm tires

They all feel great to ride, and honestly, the weight of two filled water 
bottles on the 1st bike makes it about as heavy as the last without the water!  
Of course, weights vary based on equipment, but nothing here is all that heavy, 
considering what you get for the weight that's there.



      
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