Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-23 Thread james black
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 09:17, Jim M. wrote: > Here's Grant's piece on naming/paint/graphics: > http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/graphics Good stuff! This was interesting: "Brand or model names shouldn't sound like inside jokes thought up over beer & pizza." Personally I think Atla

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-23 Thread cyclotourist
Out here in the West, the majority of all land is public. The Gov then leases it to ranchers, oil rigs, military, miners. What's left over is split among public users. Here's a local trail: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4210250414/ Who should I complain about first? On Sat, Jan 23

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread erik jensen
I suppose I can definitely see you point given certain environments are absolutely fragile, and many cyclists are abusive. However, riding here in the east bay, I ride smooth 35mm tires on fireroads in land that is used as free-range for cattle. Not exactly a fragile clime, but I agree with you ent

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread tarik saleh
Where do you stand on horses? No just kidding. Don't answer that. What I meant was, where do you stand on the alameda whipsnake. No, wait, nevermind. Tarik On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:48 PM, MichaelH wrote: > Eric, > Thanks for the question; I'd be glad to explain. > > I can only assume that "p

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Bill Connell
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 9:31 PM, R Gonet wrote: > Still, what's a hunquapiller?  What does the name come from? 1. Large piece of multi-legged Lepidoptera larvae 2. Highly attractive pharmacist 3. New all-rounder bike from Rivendell -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message be

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread tarik saleh
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM, R Gonet wrote: > Still, what's a hunquapiller?  What does the name come from? > Sexy caterpillar. Come on folks. Grant loves him the hunky caterpillars and the contractions. This is not really that hard. Tarik -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los al

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Dan Abelson
FYI According to Riv they will be continuing to make the Atlantis. It will now be made by Waterford. See http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/181 "When we're out of the Japanese Atlantis frames, the future ones will be made by Wford. The chainstays will be different but just fine, and some mic

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, my second two customs (the first was a Waterford, circa early 1995, IIRC) have upsloping top tubes and non-heat treated tubing. #2 is a Joe, 1999 fixed, #3 is a Curt 2003 1X10, now fixed, too. Riv #1 was a customized Waterford made from tout 753 which, of course, is heat treated (isn't it?) b

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Ken Mattina
You know it seems like these kinds of discussions only happen during the winter. ;-) On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:34 PM, EricP wrote: > This discussion seems to be turning into a forum on the present focus > of the company. With a lot of values coming into it. > > Reminds me of when I was "col

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread james black
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 17:00, Brad Gantt wrote: > Perhaps you could explain how Rivendell has drifted away from the > ideals stated below. There is nothing road-ish of off-road-ish about > them. Rivendell has always been a personal expression of "velosophy" > for Grant which is full of contradict

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread bpustow
No, that's not necessarily easy. You want to stay with the one you've loved for a long time. I remember having this discussion with my home builder. I told him about my neighbor who had just gone through an ugly/nasty divorce. His response was that every time he had gone through a divorce he

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
There's an easy solution to what annoys you, and that is to look elsewhere beside Rivendell for your bikes. I personally have little interest in many Rivendell models -- the only bikes that interest me are the road ones (Rodeo), the fixed gears and, perhaps, the Hunquawhatever for off road, but I

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Bruce
acknowledges, while maintaining that the Taiwainese work is still very good. From: PATRICK MOORE To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 6:39:58 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news What are the real differences between Toyo built (or

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread PATRICK MOORE
What are the real differences between Toyo built (or Waterford built) frames and Taiwanese ones? On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Michael Glaser wrote: > I really like the Hunqapiller name (it has all the hallmarks of a > great nonce word) and love the headbadge art. Can't wait to see the > bik

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread bpustow
In a message dated 1/22/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, palin...@his.com writes: Doesn't this sound like exactly what the AHH was designed for? I own both and in my opinion, no, it does NOT do it as well as the Rambouillet. The Rambouillet is faster/ easier over dirt and/or

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread bpustow
Well said, Michael. Bill In a message dated 1/22/2010 6:48:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mhech...@gmail.com writes: Count me amongst the confused. Hunqapillier? What? A replacement for the Atlantis? I didn't think the Atlantis needed a replacement. I don't own one, but if I wanted

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread erik jensen
i'm not sure i understand why a "land owner" would not want people riding rivendells on public lands laced with firetrails. can you explain? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu.

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 15:47 -0800, MichaelH wrote: > Count me amongst the confused. Hunqapillier? What? A replacement > for the Atlantis? I didn't think the Atlantis needed a replacement. Read the Riv blog. The Yen-Dollar exchange rate has made Japanese production impossible. Rather than hav

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread bpustow
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brdg...@gmail.com writes: Then I guess that's one less bike on your list. :) On Jan 21, 7:23 pm, bpus...@aol.com wrote: > Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name No, it'll depend on the bike. It may be worth getting just fo

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Bruce
The early road models are just called Rivendell as well. You can always ask. :) No reason to leave the prancing Ram with his tongue stuck out (again, a metaphor for Grant vs the cycling establishment?) on the head tube if you don't like it. Why not have your local ornamental metals shop laser cu

RE: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-22 Thread Frederick, Steve
ck, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of bpus...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:24 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news Nice try..but it'

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread erik jensen
I'm leaning positive seeing as the associated animal is a wooly mammoth, though wooly mammoth is a fine name it its own regard. Anyway, a prime association for a rivendell mtb/touring offering. +1 for mammoth tire clearance. erik On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:36 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > I'm neutr

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread cyclotourist
I'm neutral on the name. I'm glad it has a new name instead of calling it an Atlantis (3?). As Patrick, I'm hoping for big tire clearance. 2.35" 29ers with no TCO would be perfect for me. Don't forget the TCO!!! Less than that and I need to look elsewhere. I'm kinda' looking at a Surly Karate

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread james black
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 17:02, Ron MH wrote: > What the heck kind of name is "Hunqapiller"? For once, I immediately liked this name "Hunqapiller". That feels weird to type! I like this a lot better than the imaginary people names used for many other recent models. James Black -- You received

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/21/10 7:07 PM, newenglandbike at matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: > Anyway, does Hunqapillar mean mammoth in some language?I'm curious > about the name. No. I think it has a great sense of nordic strength. I'm sure Grant will share the derivation before its release. There's a story the

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Annette Lein wrote: > >> Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes just >> that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller looks fabulous >> and I for one am all for th

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
No worse that Pitch or Eco or FX or Allez or Vita or Allant or what have you. God, I am amazed at the attention and energy given to second guessing and in-depth analyzing Grant. Let him do what he wants, for Christ's sake! He makes good bikes, good enough! On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:23 PM, wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread Annette Lein
Not too much to ask, but isn't that what all the big bike manufacturers do??? So, I personally don't need another one :) On Jan 21, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I don't understand why Grant refuses to market a bike that has a color and a name that is universall

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread bpustow
Nice try..but it's a dumb ass name In a message dated 1/21/2010 9:38:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bmenn...@comcast.net writes: Is Grant directly poking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 19:01 -0800, Brad Gantt wrote: > I don't think there is such a thing as a universally appealing name- > I remember thinking that 'Roadeo' was a pretty innocuous name, but > some people seemed almost angry about it. " > > > I believe that was Jim's point. I do not know Jim bu

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread Bruce
Nah, I think he feels the Mastodon's tusk captures the Riv fork rake just perfectly... From: Bill M. Is Grant directlypoking at those who deride steel as too slow, heavy and old fashioned? -- You received this message because you are subscribed t

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread Shaun Meehan
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Annette Lein wrote: > Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes just > that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller looks fabulous > and I for one am all for the namejust my 2 centsAnnette But it's a tradition

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread Annette Lein
Why not have interesting and off the wall names??? It makes the bikes just that much more unique to me. The artwork for the hunqapiller looks fabulous and I for one am all for the namejust my 2 centsAnnette On Jan 21, 2010, at 8:02 PM, Ron MH wrote: What the heck kind of name is

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapiller news

2010-01-21 Thread bpustow
In a message dated 1/21/2010 11:17:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, paste...@notes.udayton.edu writes: Off to a good start, nice looking headbadge. Yea, I agree. Spectacular! I wonder if it will be a double top tuber? God, I hope not. -- You received this message because you are