Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-24 Thread John Wilson
Be very careful where you put 3M reflective tape. It has been known to pull off paint and even chrome upon removal. Ask me how I know! John Wilson Greensburg, PA USA On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 3:54:58 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > IOW, unless you plaster it pretty widely across fenders a

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-24 Thread Patrick Moore
What if you've ridden for over 50 years, built your first bike from scratch in 1970, and ride alone? Are blinkies OK then? Patrick Moore, tempted to dig up that old NR arc light in ABQ, NM. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:49 PM, stonehog wrote: > In my opinion, blinkies are what safety obsessed newb

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore
IOW, unless you plaster it pretty widely across fenders and, say, helmet, you'll be very hard put to equal the reflective protection of a Sam Browne or large rear triangle. 'Nuff said. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > I imagine the tape is a 1:1 in comparison to other refl

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
I imagine the tape is a 1:1 in comparison to other reflective measures (triangles, belts, vests). It's just nice to have it on there on your bike and not something you forget to carry or have to hassle with. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Can enough square inches of refl

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore
Can enough square inches of reflective tape equal the visibility of a cycling vest or Sam Browne? How much, and where? The Sam Browne is rather annoying to put on, tho' in the universal scheme of things this is a gripe petty to the point of absurdity. I use reflective tape on cranks, but where can

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Tim Gavin
Yes, 3M reflective tape is great. I put some on my girlfriend's Soma for visibility. I used small strips (like 1/4" wide) on the inside of the rims, and on the pedals. Those little reflective flashes are quite visible, combined with the movement of the wheels and pedals. A bigger patch on the r

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread cyclotourist
I like this stuff a lot. Put it all over bikes and helmets. It's really bright from behind. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQRIV2 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > Sheesh. I meant: Hi po or less obtrusive. > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> hi-po

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore
Sheesh. I meant: Hi po or *less* obtrusive. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > hi-po or more obtrusive > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore
One more note: recently, driving my daughter back westward from some appointment along a very busy evening rush hour artery -- 6-lane Montano just east of the River, before it narrows to 2 lanes -- I saw an eastbound cyclist in the bike path to the right of 3 eastbound lanes with a powerful front w

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-23 Thread Patrick Moore
I have to agree with John; I'd rather be seen as different and even annoying if both or either mean that I'm more noticeable. I recall how, over 10 years ago when I used an early NR arc light system (POS, apart from raw light output), often oncoming cars often would, at least on more minor roads, n

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread Eric Norris
That was actually proposed in legislation earlier this year in Sacramento: http://www.kcet.org/news/agenda/laws/bicycle-reflector-law-ab-28.html --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 06/22/201

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/22/2015 08:25 PM, Eric Norris wrote: I believe that the “arms race” for bright taillights has gotten out of hand … or at a minimum, there are lights that *might* be suited for certain urban environments and solo riders that are showing up in pacelines where they don’t belong. As Will ment

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread Eric Norris
I believe that the “arms race” for bright taillights has gotten out of hand … or at a minimum, there are lights that *might* be suited for certain urban environments and solo riders that are showing up in pacelines where they don’t belong. As Will mentions, it’s extremely annoying (and sometimes

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread William deRosset
The sociability factor for high-intensity blinking lights when on the road with others is low, regardless of whether target fixation is a problem with bike blinkies. I personally dislike blinking LED lights when driving, regardless of what kind of vehicle I'm operating. It is harder to judge d

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
I believe the study actually relates to strobe lights on emergency vehicles - both causing seizures and "drawing in" impaired drivers. I'm not aware of anything specific to bike blinkies. The biggest fear there is getting yelled at by the poor guy riding behind you. On Monday, June 22, 2015 a

Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread Eric Norris
I’ve heard those stories going all the way back to 1983, when a product called “Belt Beacon” came on the market. I think this is an urban myth. Here’s the Belt Beacon: http://bicycletimesmag.com/way-back-day-machine-visits-belt-beacon/ Mine gave good service for a few years before I updated to

RE: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights

2015-06-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Bobby – Where did you get the Herrmanns? T From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:36 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Dynamo Taillights The Toplight IS nice, altho