Re: [RBW] Grant on tires

Good discussion though, I had no idea what those fins were for! Toshi the know-nuttin' bike mechanic wannabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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it was already in another shot I took today - the photo just above was where I was trying to fit a Parigi tubie - it wasn't going to fit to my dismay but here On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:

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That IS weird! HAHA! How funny. You see what tricked me, though On Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:05:01 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > made me look, they're correct - that's some weird reflection... > > > > > > On Thu

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made me look, they're correct - that's some weird reflection... On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:41:34 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Looks like your brake pad holders are on upside down and backwards. Those >

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fronts and back are right, but the campy moskva rims are steeply v-shaped and the spherical bolt seats them better that way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

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nning it. > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:53:37 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: >> >> What is "zap a gap"? Is that a product or just a slang name for >> something you use for filling in cuts in tires? >> ------------------ >> From: Ron Mc >&

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- > From: Ron Mc > Sent: ‎3/‎20/‎2014 7:04 AM > To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Grant on tires > > Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My > wheel load is probably higher than yours, but if I ride them under > pressur

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filling in cuts in tires? > -- > From: Ron Mc > Sent: ‎3/‎20/‎2014 7:04 AM > To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Grant on tires > > Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My > wheel load is pro

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What is "zap a gap"? Is that a product or just a slang name for something you use for filling in cuts in tires? -Original Message- From: "Ron Mc" Sent: ‎3/‎20/‎2014 7:04 AM To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" Subject: Re: [RBW] Grant on tires Hi Pat

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I'll probably abbreviate them as Biancas from here out - I like the name, which translates to caliche road - what we have here. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:09:40 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Of course, that's it. But my P-Rs measure 29 mm on older Open Pros -- > though come to think of

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Of course, that's it. But my P-Rs measure 29 mm on older Open Pros -- though come to think of it they are spec'd at 27 mm or so, IIRC (I bought them second hand) so that the S-Bs would measure an actual few mm wider. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On 03/20/2014 08:26

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On 03/20/2014 08:26 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: What tire is the "S-B"? I'm pretty sure SB is the Challenge Strada Bianca, which is a 30+mm version of the Parigi Roubaix. I tend to run my tires lower than what many others describe: 60-65 for the PRs, ~ 90 for skinny 23s, sub 30 for the 55 mm

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What tire is the "S-B"? I tend to run my tires lower than what many others describe: 60-65 for the PRs, ~ 90 for skinny 23s, sub 30 for the 55 mm Furious Freds, 55-60 for the 1.35 mm Kojaks on the 559 commuter. (I weigh 175.) At more than these pressures all start to feel rough. Our roads are gene

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Hi Patrick, I have to ride Parigi on the crisp side (90 psi rear). My wheel load is probably higher than yours, but if I ride them under pressure, I feel like I'm overstressing the rim on shocks - the air volume in the S-B overcomes the wheel load and lets me ride at very much lower pressure (

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I'm fairly certain I bought my Sam because the test bike was shod with Hetres. It's my first Riv. I'd taken a few test rides on other bikes, and my then-current bike had Duremes, and the Sam felt completely different. Nimble, but laughably smooth going over cobble and rough macadam. The differen

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Tires can really make a difference in the fun. Using the Bomba around town I had the Schwalbe middys and then the big Conti Tour Rides. When the Big Bens were available in 650B I put them on the bike as soon as I could. Still an 800g tire but much more fun to ride. On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:16 PM

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The latest issue of Bicycle Quarterly has a very nice summary of all their tire testing data. Interesting that the fastest tire they tested was a 25 mm tire -- a Vittoria, and that thanks to its casing. I daresay that up to some point, a wider tire with the same casing would be a wee bit faster yet

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I appreciate both you and Grant chiming in to this thread. There doesn't have to be much more to say to the topic, but I will say this - I think you both are totally correct with the wider tires are better tires. Even on my set up for fast club riding Roadeo I went with 33's and don't feel slowe

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For those of you who have never ridden a supple, wide 650b tire, you might think that smile-on-the-face ride is hyperbole, but I assure you that it is not (for me). I haven't been really training for my brevet rides except for my commute to work on my AHH and some trainer rides at night. On my com

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Grant, Thank you for the nice words. Yes, I appreciate your friendship, too. Fond memories... I totally understand where you are coming from when it comes to tires. There is a place for sturdy tires. You articulate it well: How much do you want to think about your bike. I don't mind changing my

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Patrick, there is a paradigm shift between a 95 psi min-rating tire and a 55 psi min-rating tire. The fact that the Bianca Strada is every bit as fast as the Parigi is noteworthy. On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 6:02:41 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > Thanks Grant, but I think we were talking about

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Thanks Grant, but I think we were talking about what tires you and Jan Sell. Thanks to both of you for expanding our choices. It's showing in the tire market, and that's Good. Hmm, let's see, do I want pragmatic tires or aesthetic tires...? On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:37:30 AM UTC-5, gran

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Tires: My apparent infatuation with stout tires comes from the way I ride now --- to work, downtown, and in the hills and on trails solo and with a few friends, often enough with a load. I'm not meticulous with maintenance. I've had about 500 flats in my life, and I don't like them anymore, and

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Patrick and Z - Agreed. If you want flat protection and good ride, Stan's is definitely worth considering. On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:09:10 PM UTC-5, Z wrote: > > Peter, > > If you're looking for better flat protection w/Hetres, try squirting an > ounce or two of Stan's sealant into your tub

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Peter, If you're looking for better flat protection w/Hetres, try squirting an ounce or two of Stan's sealant into your tubes. You'll need tubes that have removable valve cores (like Q-tubes). I used to patch a flat after even the shortest jaunt around town, but since Patrick Moore showed me

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Late to the party but I'll play. I just bought a used, lower middle class mountain bike (DB "Outlook", 7 speed Shimano megarange fw) for my daughter. One reason for the choice (beside fit and feel -- she liked it) were the wide tires with mildish knobs. I took advantage of her ignorance to have the

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Matt Lynch: I, too, wonder if I'm missing something by not running Compass or Grand Bois tires--or at least Jack Browns with their checkerboard tread. But last year when I bought my Sam from Rivendell, I got Little Big Bens to go with it. I love the bike and I like the tires, too, and at the ra

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Tubeless Hetres ride beautifully. I wouldn't try it on Synergy rims though. Try it with Stan's rims on a disc brake bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen

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This conversation makes me think more and more of going to tubeless hetres but I don't think the rims (synergies) are up to the task. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Mike Schiller wrote: > I ride some pretty rough singletrack and dirt roads on Grand Bois Hetres > and they work great. The wider

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I ride some pretty rough singletrack and dirt roads on Grand Bois Hetres and they work great. The wider tires at lower pressures seem to be much less flat prone. I didn't have such good luck with the 32 mm Cypres tires. And if you want to see Jan on some rough roads with Hetres, just have a pee

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Yes, In Winnipeg our roads look like the craters of the moon. I feel your pain, Tim. So...sturdy tires like the Paselas I've been using work for me On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:27:07 AM UTC-5, Tim McNamara wrote: > > Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention > publicly).

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I bought the 32mm 700c tire they have (forgot the name) but haven't had a chance to use it though. I bought some tubes when buying the tires too, but the valve stems are too short for my wheels. I am going to try them out on my Roadeo and am hopeful for a nice, fast, supple ride. I will say t

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Somebody please buy and try the new Compass tires. I'm interested, but I'd like to see how they perform. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: > > My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for randonneuring, > which is fine with me beca

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Speaking of tires, I have to give a plug for the Cont. CX speed that Riv sells, if you havnt ridden that tire, you ought too. Its pretty darn light ~ 420grams, and feels supple to me and SUPER grippy, even has flat protection. Unimprovable( made up word) for the kind of riding I enjoy! -

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I'd hate to pedal a Boeing 777 On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:52:31 AM UTC-5, reynoldslugs wrote: > > Betty or Veronica? Ginger, or Mary Anne? > > It's good to have good choices - and I'm in the middle of the Grant/Jan > spectrum. I'm a Clydesdale and I ride on some rough roads. I like fat > t

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Betty or Veronica? Ginger, or Mary Anne? It's good to have good choices - and I'm in the middle of the Grant/Jan spectrum. I'm a Clydesdale and I ride on some rough roads. I like fat tires but don't like changing flats, so my tire of choice in 700c is the Schwalbe Kojak. Still trying to fi

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On 03/14/2014 12:39 PM, Jim Bronson wrote: My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for randonneuring, which is fine with me because that's the source of many of the miles that I put on my Rivendell. I listened to Jan when I was running 700c and switched from Gatorskins to Grand B

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My Grand Bois tires sing around Phoenix, even on dirt. I don't ride my road bike on the trails of South Mountain, but the roads there are great. Just too short. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention > publicly).

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My opinion is that Jan is trying to optimize his tires for randonneuring, which is fine with me because that's the source of many of the miles that I put on my Rivendell. I listened to Jan when I was running 700c and switched from Gatorskins to Grand Bois and I had never been happier. Now on 650b

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Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention publicly). Jan does very long rides mostly on pavement and some gravel with an eye towards speed. Grant rides a lot of fire roads in the Bay Area hills. They will probably gravitate towards the tire choices that best suit their