Speaking of tires, I have to give a plug for the Cont. CX speed that Riv sells, 
 if you havnt ridden that tire,  you ought too.   Its pretty darn light ~ 
420grams, and feels supple to me and SUPER grippy,  even has flat protection.   
Unimprovable( made up word) for the kind of riding I enjoy!  -Mike

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> On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Bill Gibson <bill.bgib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My Grand Bois tires sing around Phoenix, even on dirt. I don't ride my road 
> bike on the trails of South Mountain, but the roads there are great. Just too 
> short.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> Well, consider the rides they do (at least the ones they mention publicly).  
>> Jan does very long rides mostly on pavement and some gravel with an eye 
>> towards speed.  Grant rides a lot of fire roads in the Bay Area hills.  They 
>> will probably gravitate towards the tire choices that best suit their riding 
>> predilections.
>> 
>> I have not been in the Bay Area since 1981 and have never been to the 
>> Seattle area, so I don't know what the road conditions are like.  If the Bay 
>> Area roads are anything like the atrocious minefields that Minneapolis and 
>> St. Paul have become over the past 10-15 years and especially after this 
>> winter, stout tires are probably a good idea.  The Twin Cities have both cut 
>> way back on road maintenance and repairs, going to a complaint-based rather 
>> than a proactive model (basically they have to get a certain number of phone 
>> calls about a pothole or other road problem before they go out to fix it).  
>> I'd probably shred a Grand Bois in one ride around here nowadays.
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