Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-21 Thread JimD
This is perfect. Like the Intel folks say, 'only the paranoid survive' or something to that effect. And even then...stuff happens. -JimD On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:43 AM Jan 20, 2011, CycloFiend wrote: My long-standing mantra is to ride as if everyone around me is going to do the worst po

RE: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Kelly Sleeper
oups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Paulson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > I just ride as though invisible. I don't know how I could possibly ride as thoug

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/20/11 11:34 AM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: >> I just ride as though invisible. > > I don't know how I could possibly ride as though I were invisible. > Where I live, there are lots of streets that don't have shoulde

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > I just ride as though invisible. I don't know how I could possibly ride as though I were invisible. Where I live, there are lots of streets that don't have shoulders or bike lanes, and cars are faster than I am. And what about lights? Let'

RE: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Kelly Sleeper
wners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Paulson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:55 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > It doesn't make sen

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > >> It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When >> traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop, >> you better stop. > > The point about the Idaho

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When > traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop, > you better stop. The point about the Idaho Stop is the cyclist still has to yield at stop signs. *If there