On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant <grant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When
>> traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop,
>> you better stop.
>
> The point about the Idaho Stop is the cyclist still has to yield at
> stop signs. *If there is no one waiting to go the other direction,*
> the cyclist doesn't have to stop, but can continue after making sure
> it's safe. But in Manhattan, at most times of the day, most
> intersections aren't empty. That is, the cyclist won't come to a stop
> sign and discover there is no traffic the other way. So, if the Idaho
> Stop were the law in New York City wouldn't matter, because it would
> almost never apply.
>

Anne,
 Thanks for stating that so clearly. I think a lot of people were
misunderstanding. Somehow folks seems to be thinking
that 'yield' means 'go ahead no matter what'.

The idaho stop is just a 'preservation of forward motion at stop signs
for extremely lightweight and relatively slow-moving vehicles".
In high-traffic areas amounts to no change in how traffic  flow or
right-of-way works at all.

It only makes it not-illegal to pause-and-roll a stop sign when there
is no other traffic.

-sv

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