Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I want to toss in a non-snarky comment to, not so much contradict but to supplement Fai Mao's and Jim's comments on versatile bikes. I have a '99 custom gofast 571 wheel Riv fixed gear that Grant built at my insistence without fender or rack brazeons, rd hangar, dt shifter brazeons or cable housing

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-10 Thread robert zeidler
+1 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Well this is the "Riv Owners Group" what better place to be snarky? > I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned. > > Kelly > > Fai Mao wrote: >> I struggled to post on this thread. But I can't say what I want to say >> without it sound

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread Fai Mao
OK, I think what makes a Riv a Riv is that they are bikes for adults who ride like adults. My Sam Hillborne is for some someone who doesn't race, doesn't pretend to be a racer and isn't concerned about impressing the Cat-1 wannabes. They are bikes for people who actually ride a bike because they l

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread cyclotourist
While I would agree that we aren't necessarily thin skinned here, it is the minimal amount of snark, and the genteel nature of the posts here that makes it a pretty unique place on the interwebs. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Well this is the "Riv Owners Group" what bet

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Well this is the "Riv Owners Group" what better place to be snarky? I say Snark on.. we aren't that thin skinned. Kelly Fai Mao wrote: > I struggled to post on this thread. But I can't say what I want to say > without it sounding snarky towards people that ride other types of bikes and > I don't

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread Fai Mao
I struggled to post on this thread. But I can't say what I want to say without it sounding snarky towards people that ride other types of bikes and I don't mean to denigrate them. So I'll just say: I wish Douglas Brooks would post here. I miss him from the old I-Bob list On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/9/11 8:37 AM, JimD at rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: > I like looking at the 'staff bikes' on the Riv site. > Grant's bikes have a fair number of 'things' on em. > Mark Abele's bikes tend to be spare. > There's no one way. > We do and ride what we like and what works. >From "Tips for Happy Rid

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread zeidler . robert
et-up. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JimD Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:37:00 To: Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell I like looking at the 'staff bikes'

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-09 Thread JimD
I like looking at the 'staff bikes' on the Riv site. Grant's bikes have a fair number of 'things' on em. Mark Abele's bikes tend to be spare. There's no one way. We do and ride what we like and what works. -JimD On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:06 PM Jan 8, 2011, robert zeidler wrote: I agree with it all,

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-08 Thread robert zeidler
I agree with it all, what a great bike to make into what you want. The one thing I find quite amazing-this is an observation, not a critique-is, especially on Cyclofiend, the amazing amounts of stuff that people hang on their bikes. It's like farkle city! On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:54 PM, JimD wro

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-08 Thread JimD
Well said Jim. I wish I could find the thing I read from Douglas Brooks where he talks about 'resolved' and 'resourcefull' bikes. A Hampsten Tournesol Rando bike is an example of a resolved bike. Everything is optimized for the function of long distance/unsupported riding. A Rivendell (pic

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/7/11 12:06 PM, Kelly Sleeper at tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: (great questions which ended with...) > What makes the Rivendell Different.. how does one explain that difference to > those that just see a steel antique looking bke? I think there have been a couple of handling or "discussion of tra

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-08 Thread JimD
+1 and they are good looking too. Oh, and the have real head badges. -JimD On Jan 7, 2011, at 6:15 PM Jan 7, 2011, PATRICK MOORE wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: My question is what makes the Rivendell Bike Different. Incontrovertibly and incontestably not

Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-07 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > My question is what makes the Rivendell Bike Different. > Incontrovertibly and incontestably nothing more important than **fit** and **handling** -- sez I whose 3 customs won't take more than 30s with fenders. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque,

[RBW] What Makes the Rivendell

2011-01-07 Thread Kelly Sleeper
As a new owner and new to this style of riding. This style of riding being larger tires, more upright position, more comfort oriented. My question is what makes the Rivendell Bike Different. I notice that even with Custom builds that Tire Clearance is less than. Full tour bikes that wil