Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread ascpgh
Trail for sure makes sense, lower has less stabilizing effect at rolling speeds but the other variables do have profundity beyond their list relegated value. My Rambouillet scared the heck out of me on a long steep downhill when it broke out in a full-on shimmy oscillation. I had no load other

Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Patrick Moore stated: "Shimmy can be caused by any number of things" That's true and correct. Shimmy is resonance. Resonance in a mechanical structure means everything important is just right. Patrick Moore is also spot on in the way to fix it: Change something and see if it fixed it. If

Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread Sam Perez
interesting, ok ill get more details and see if that will help narrow down the issue. On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 12:43:47 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > Shimmy can be caused by any number of things; it seems to be common with > low trail designs built from very light tubing. > > Eliminatin

Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Shimmy can be caused by any number of things; it seems to be common with low trail designs built from very light tubing. Eliminating those 2 things leaves an indefinite number of other things. My 2003 stout-tubed custom shimmied after I changed tires; with other tires, it disappeared. Start by el

Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread Sam Perez
interesting , I is light weight tubing and a small front rando bag in the front. On Monday, August 31, 2020 at 11:05:56 AM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote: > Your down tube isn’t stiff enough. > > On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Sam Perez wrote: > > why does my front loaded bike shimmy at speeds when

Re: [RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread James Valiensi
Your down tube isn’t stiff enough. > On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Sam Perez wrote: > > why does my front loaded bike shimmy at speeds when I let go of the handle > bar head angle is 71.5. any thoughts? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW

[RBW] shimmy 71.5 head angle

2020-08-31 Thread Sam Perez
why does my front loaded bike shimmy at speeds when I let go of the handle bar head angle is 71.5. any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Shimmy cured

2013-01-03 Thread BSWP
Hmmm... I have been wondering what I could do for shimmies on both the QuickBeam and the LongLow, will have to give this a try. When is the next raffle?... I need a new black woolie zip-tee, too! - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: [RBW] Shimmy cured

2013-01-03 Thread Peter Morgano
Hmm, will be picking one up for my bombadil rebuild when it comes back from paint. Looks like the perfect setup at almost half the cost of Chris King. On Jan 3, 2013 8:15 PM, "dougP" wrote: > My Atlantis has always had an odd, annoying and somewhat unpredictable > shimmy. This topic has been dis

[RBW] Shimmy cured

2013-01-03 Thread dougP
My Atlantis has always had an odd, annoying and somewhat unpredictable shimmy. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum, with the suggestion that a roller bearing headset MAY increase the friction enough to damp out shimmy. Since my problem was limited to certain load conditions (heavy rear &

[RBW] shimmy

2010-12-12 Thread dpco
in the eighties i had a bianchi ( superleggera, reparto corsa) that would shimmy. i have noticed, over the years, that the new frames, including my riv's, with the the new tubing seem to have more strength torsionally. my experience is that these modern frames are much less likely to shimmy than th

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ NRC

2010-12-12 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 20:18 -0800, james black wrote: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 04:59, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Knee to top tube is a highly effective and well known (in my experience) > > way to stop /speed wobble/ -- as distinguished from "shimmy". And speed > > wobble happens with hands on t

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ NRC

2010-12-11 Thread james black
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 04:59, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Knee to top tube is a highly effective and well known (in my experience) > way to stop /speed wobble/ -- as distinguished from "shimmy".  And speed > wobble happens with hands on the bars, in fact can be caused by those > hands on the bar (de

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-11 Thread Ken Freeman
Which must the Motown view ... On Saturday, December 11, 2010, hobie wrote: > Shimmy,shimmy,cocoa pop > > On Dec 10, 1:03 pm, William wrote: >> I am a recent subscriber of Bicycle Quarterly.  I had thought about >> subscribing for a while, and two things about the newest issue made me >> pu

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ NRC

2010-12-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 23:10 -0500, stanwas...@bellsouth.net wrote: > Some time ago I read somewhere, here perhaps, that a possible > technique for eliminating a shimmy on a bicycle was to gently apply > pressure to the top tube with one's knee, assuming one could not be > bothered to return ones ha

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ NRC

2010-12-11 Thread Ken Freeman
I rode motorcycles about 30 years ago, and there was an aftermarket product that was seen as having the potential to help - the adjustable hydraulic steering damper. It was a miniature version of a car shock absorber, looking about as large around as a tailgate lifter off of a modern car. They oft

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/10/10 10:03 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > Since I'm growing convinced that there might not be anyone who really > understands shimmy, I'm going to run some experiments of my own on my > Hillborne to attempt to understand it more. Since that bike, in it's > current state, shimmi

[RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ NRC

2010-12-10 Thread stanwasser
I worked in a multi line motorcycle shop from '85 - '95, and have been happily riding motorcycles and bicycles for many, many years. Not surprisingly, motorcycles experience a similar phenomenon Because of the greater vehicle mass and higher speeds, a simple wobble or shimmy can quickly become

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread Tim McNamara
Shimmy appears to be one of many properties of bicycles that is not well understood. The math involved to describe what bikes do is very complicated- even just turning a corner is hard to describe mathematically because the bike describes arc in two different planes- and fortunately we don

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread Bruce
Send this part off to Eben Weiss. He can always use good material.. From: William >>The Cliff-notes synopsis is: "I don't know what causes shimmy, nor does anyone else. Here's what several oldschool guys said about shimmy. They were wrong. I can't take a b

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:03 -0800, William wrote: >> I expected >> by now somebody would have started a thread about the shimmy article, >> but it is towards the back. > > And let's not forget, much of the country has yet to receive the Win

Re: [RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:03 -0800, William wrote: > I expected > by now somebody would have started a thread about the shimmy article, > but it is towards the back. And let's not forget, much of the country has yet to receive the Winter 2010 BQ issue. So please, wait on the discussion until we

[RBW] Shimmy, according to BQ

2010-12-10 Thread William
I am a recent subscriber of Bicycle Quarterly. I had thought about subscribing for a while, and two things about the newest issue made me pull the trigger. One was the write up about the Bilenky 650B tandem (dude, I want one). The other was the article about shimmy. I know Jan Heine has a reput

RE: [RBW] Shimmy!

2010-08-07 Thread Joe Bartoe
one). FYI, this occurred on the AHH, even with 35C tires on the bike. Anyone else care to comment? Joe > Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 12:37:11 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Shimmy! > From: mhech...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > In five years of riding my Rambouillet I have

[RBW] Shimmy!

2010-08-07 Thread MichaelH
In five years of riding my Rambouillet I have never experienced any front end shimmy - until this morning. I was coming down VT 108 from Smugglers Notch and as the bike hit 45 mph I shifted my hands from the drops to the center, to get into a tuck, and all of a sudden I got this slight, but unnervi