Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-07-10 Thread Ted Durant
Very helpful - thanks!Ted DurantMilwaukee, WIOn Jul 10, 2024, at 6:46 PM, Brian Watts wrote:Riv built mine a VBC cranks as well and they used 60x122.5, my white industr bracket wasn’t enough either. On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:28:11 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:I'd like to hear from others on

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-07-10 Thread Brian Watts
Riv built mine a VBC cranks as well and they used 60x122.5, my white industr bracket wasn’t enough either. On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 10:28:11 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote: > I'd like to hear from others on what BB and crank you are using on your > new Sam. The BB that comes with it is a Shim

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-07-10 Thread Ted Durant
I'd like to hear from others on what BB and crank you are using on your new Sam. The BB that comes with it is a Shimano 110mm. I installed a Phil 113mm and found that my White Industries crank (VBC, 44/32) is a no-go. The inner ring bolts hit the chain stay well before the crank is tightened. It

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-23 Thread john Bokman
Gorgeous Brent! Thanks for sharing. (I reluctantly opted out of this round since I already have a 2017 Sam, but I was mighty tempted!) > On Jun 23, 2024, at 12:52 PM, Brent Knepper wrote: > > my p-winkle sam showed up friday, hoping to have it built by next weekend ◡̈ > ◡̈ ◡̈ teaser pic from

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-23 Thread John Bokman
Ted, I always like the way you have your Sams appointed. I am eager to see your setup when you feel willing and able to grace us with some photos of the Periwinkle. John Portland, OR On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 11:06:21 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote: > While I'm measuring things ... I stuck a pa

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-22 Thread Ted Durant
While I'm measuring things ... I stuck a pair of 700c wheels on it and I was temporarily excited when I found the rear rim was 57mm from the brake mounting hole. Perfect for a set of medium-reach caliper brakes! Alas, at the front it's barely 40mm at the front of the fork crown, so much less th

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-21 Thread Mathias Steiner
Thanks, Ted, That is helpful. What I'm learning is that not only does the Sam have the same effective geometry as my Gordon BLT, it also has the same frame weight. Your fork is a little lighter; mine was 970 g with the race installed; the frame (size 52, more like a 57 Sam) weighed just unde

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-21 Thread Ted Durant
> On Jun 21, 2024, at 5:16 PM, Michael Connors > wrote: > > Mine also had a bottom bracket installed Good point - I should have clarified that I removed the bottom bracket that came with it, so the weight I gave is without the BB. Ted Durant Milwaukee WI USA -- You received this message be

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-21 Thread Michael Connors
Mine also had a bottom bracket installed On Friday, June 21, 2024 at 1:33:38 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote: > On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote: > > I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from > recipients of Sam Hillborne frames. >

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-21 Thread Ted Durant
On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote: I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from recipients of Sam Hillborne frames. I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Mathias Steiner
Hi Ted, >> stiffer...on the stiff-ish side more springy and like a limp noodle Thanks for your exhaustive and highly quantitative analysis :) >> like a limp noodle compared to the Cheviot. A diamond frame really does not do much flexing, at least vertically.. it is amazing to me h

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Ted Durant
On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote: I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from recipients of Sam Hillborne frames. I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-12 Thread Mathias Steiner
I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from recipients of Sam Hillborne frames. I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious. JP: I'm full up with bikes so I resisted, but the bronzey green Sams lo

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-11 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
SO SO bummed I missed out on the 54s. These really hit the sweet spot on the Riv ruler for me. On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 8:46:29 PM UTC-6 MoVelo wrote: > I'm getting the bronzy green version Sam and am pretty excited. Moving > most of the parts from my Bridgestone T700 over which are mostly

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-11 Thread MoVelo
I'm getting the bronzy green version Sam and am pretty excited. Moving most of the parts from my Bridgestone T700 over which are mostly classic silver finish. I've been researching traditional Rivendell elf costumes and color schemes for some inspiration for *accoutrements and could use help and

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-11 Thread Ted Durant
On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:32:15 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote: Nay. It looks great, but a roll top has no place on a handlebar bag. Well, I was asking more about aesthetics than about functionality. I have a few different handlebar bags with conventional rear-opening tops and I am prett

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-11 Thread ian m
On the other hand, a roll top is a very good method for keeping the elements out of a bag, and if you are otherwise running something like a basket with a cargo net then you are undoubtedly used to not accessing your stuff while riding. In such cases there are indeed times when a roll top has a

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-06-11 Thread Mathias Steiner
Nay. It looks great, but a roll top has no place on a handlebar bag. On Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 10:29:16 AM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: > On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote: > > For those who are getting a Periwinkle Sam ... what color combos are you > planning for your b

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-24 Thread Brian Watts
I’m trying to come up with my color palette for a Peri-Sam as well. Anodized silver hub (rear)w Son front; matte silver quill rims, polished touring cantis (currently w pink and purple nuts), white VBC cranks (polished arms, black rings, may pick new crank cap color). May wait to choose colors

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-20 Thread Ted Durant
For those who are getting a Periwinkle Sam ... what color combos are you planning for your build? I've ordered a purple Funky Monkey front cable hanger from Paul. Not sure it's going to be a good match. I have Phil Wood blue bottom bracket dust caps ... they'll probably match okay, not sure. Th

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-18 Thread Eric Marth
Congrats to everyone on snagging a Sam, very capable and fun bikes! On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:41:03 PM UTC-4 watta...@gmail.com wrote: > Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday🙌🏼. I’m thinking Quill > rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub >

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Brian Watts
Happily secured a 54 Peri-Sam at 12:01 yesterday🙌🏼. I’m thinking Quill rims to have tubeless as an option. Recs on dynamo hubs? I’ve had a Son hub w edelux light but would entertain a cheaper hub option but will stick w Edelux lights…it’s so good. On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 6:52:32 AM UTC-7

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Brian Watts
Yay, 54 Periwinkle right at 12:01🤪 On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:06:38 PM UTC-7 Michael wrote: > 57 Green here > > On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: > >> >> Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy >> I'll consider letting it go. >>

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Donzaemon
Love that color! It’s in my size too! On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 1:42:19 PM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote: > On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb wrote: > > almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i > be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a mont

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Andrew Joseph
Thanks Ted! Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2024, at 8:42 AM, Ted Durant wrote: > >  >> On May 16, 2024, at 7:43 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote: >> >> Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n >> Road 48s? My Sam is from the previous run… >> > > -- > You recei

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-16 Thread Andrew Joseph
Can any Sam owner out there confirm there is tire clearance for BG Rock ‘n Road 48s?  My Sam is from the previous run…Sent from my iPhoneOn May 15, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Ted Durant wrote:On May 15, 2024, at 3:15 PM, reeb wrote:almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread reeb
almost pulled the trigger but hesitant about sizing! at 80 PBH, should i be going for the 48 or 51 for casual city rides with maybe once a month camping treks (most likely upright bars)? On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:06:38 PM UTC-4 Michael wrote: > 57 Green here > > On Wednesday, May 15, 202

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Michael
57 Green here On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: > > Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll > consider letting it go. > > Ted Durant > Milwaukee, WI USA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Ted Durant
Done. 51cm Periwinkle for my 3rd Sam. If people think I'm being piggy I'll consider letting it go. Ted Durant Milwaukee, WI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-15 Thread Ted Durant
> On May 15, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Doug H. wrote: > > We are almost to 3:00 PM PST. Who is watching the clock and ready to buy a > Sam Hillborne? This almost has the feel of a Bring A Trailer auction …. Ted Durant Milwaukee WI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Ted Durant
> On May 14, 2024, at 9:04 PM, Mathias Steiner > wrote: > > I'd love to hear informed opinions on the Sam. Does anybody use one on > brevets? I have two Sams from the last batch. Previously I have had a Bleriot, which is similar to the Sam. I rode the Bleriot on several very long rides, up t

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Mathias Steiner
>> inline barrel adjuster [..] This past weekend, I put a parts-bin XT rear derailleur and Suntour clamp-on cable stops on my Trek 710. At first I thought I'd lost the derailleur's barrel adjuster, but when I tried to install a replacement, I found there are no threads. Which means I have no

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Even with integrated shifters, the down-tube bosses give you a perfect spot for an inline barrel adjuster so you can tweak your indexing while riding. They are great to have on any bike. BL in EC On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:37:46 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote: > On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Ted Durant
On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:36:27 AM UTC-5 drew.jo...@gmail.com wrote: I would add that I love the very quiet update to the Sam. I like the option of running downtube shifters on the new models. Those are some sharp eyes - thanks for pointing that out! I like that option, too. Though if I

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew Joseph
I would add that I love the very quiet update to the Sam. I like the option of running downtube shifters on the new models.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 9:05 AM, Andrew Joseph wrote:Thank you Doug!Hmmm.  Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh ta

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew Joseph
Thank you Doug!Hmmm.  Saddle, seat post, stem, tires, bars, and maybe pedals will all be replaced.Fresh tape/twine, moon units, cable cherries, and then off in the sunset we go…Thanks to the members providing helpful feedback already.  Best, DrewSent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Doug

Re: [RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Doug H.
Andrew, That's a great looking build. The silver is classic and I like the black and silver parts together. Nice wheelset too. What parts are you changing? Doug On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-4 Andrew Joseph wrote: > Doug, > > Not one of the new colors. But excited that I could pick

[RBW] Sam Hillbornes Go Live Tomorrow

2024-05-14 Thread Doug H.
I like the colors coming this go-round. The Sam seems like the perfect all-rounder and I would get one had I not just bought a Roadini. Who's planning to get a Sam Hillborne? Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscr