On Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 7:22:33 AM UTC-5 Mathias Steiner wrote:

I'd like to renew my request for kitchen scale frame and fork weights from 
recipients of Sam Hillborne frames.
I wonder if they are as brutally stiff as my TIG'd tourer. I'm not even 
sure that's a bad thing, but I'm curious.


I will try to remember to weigh mine before building it up. I have two from 
the previous batch, and I have had lots of other frames for comparison. 
Bearing in mind I'm super skinny and riding them on ~48mm tires, they feel 
notably stiffer than my skinny-light-tube noodle Terraferma, on the 
stiff-ish side of my road bikes (Rivendell custom, Waterford ST-22, Heron 
Road), similar to the Bleriot, quite a bit more springy than the 
Waterford-built Riv ATB, and like a limp noodle compared to the Cheviot. 
The best comparison would be my BreadWinner G-Road, and it should say 
something that my new Sam is replacing my G-Road. A bit more springy, 
mostly because of the fork, I think, and a bit better fit. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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