Exactly- "overly stout" is entirely subjective given the weight of the
rider and riding style. When sachs builds frames for his racers, he
has the advantage of knowing their weight (and since they're racers,
they're probably not overly stout themselves) and can build the
lightest bike that will st
On Mar 4, 5:04 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote:
> Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly
> stout tubing? Or does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from
> other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh
> something, right? ;)
seems like
Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly
stout tubing? Or does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from
other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh
something, right? ;)
>
> a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see
On Mar 4, 7:01 pm, benzzoy wrote:
> Are the Sachs race bikes replaced annually?
I don't think so. New framesets for new team members, of course - but
each rider gets 2 bikes (one for the pit!), and there's no reason to
replace annually unless one fails.
the columbus spirit for lugs (aka "peg
On Mar 4, 1:19 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see a lot of his cx
> bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.* riding tubies at 30psi
> helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff
> - but still, i think it's proof that a h
On Mar 4, 1:02 pm, rperks wrote:
> It is common knowledge that a surly cross check is overbuilt as a
> cross bike. Where does the Legolas fit in? How far is a Roadeo from
> a Legolas? or a Sachs for that matter? and what kind of abuses is one
> willing to put into the bike with respect to repla
According to the table here, Ishiwata 002 it is 9/6/9:
http://www.vintage-trek.com/refurbish.htm
The Ishiwata in the table doesn't have the qualifier "E" after the
number; I don't know whether it's the same thing as the 002E of the
RB-1.
On Mar 4, 11:30 am, nathan spindel wrote:
> And for bonus
And for bonus points, does anyone have an idea of the thicknesses on
my '90 RB-1? The brochure just says Ishiwata 022E quad-butted. I'm
curious. :)
-nathan
On Mar 4, 2010, at 9:11 AM, reynoldslugs wrote:
Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense.
Now, for the last
An excellent overview, Rob. After the Roadeo is assembled, I'll do a
triple-non-blind study, as follows:
Take the Rambouillet, Legolas, and Roadeo to the hill (about 5 miles,
2100'). Over the course of 3 - 4 hours, ride each bike up and down
the hill. Do it again three days later, riding the bik
Things to consider when overthinking the relationship between the tube
cross sections in relation to a bike's ride and the physical abilities
of the frame. I am speeking from my own conclusions in progress,
based on armchair engineering and too much re-reading of BQ. Bicyle
frames while appearing
:
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:21:37 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
>
> I remember from this post that most of Rivendell's frames are 8/5/8:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_threa
>From this post from a little while ago it seems that most Rivendell
frames have 8/5/8 main triangle tubes:
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ffd368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49
Which makes it seem strange that the Roadeo would have 8/6/8 tubin
>From this post a little while ago, most of Rivendell's frames have
8/5/8 for the main triangle:
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/...
Which makes it seem strange, that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would
be 8/6/8- since that would make it beefier than their
I remember from this post that most of Rivendell's frames are 8/5/8:
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ffd368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49
Which makes it seem strange that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would
be 8/6/8- since that would make i
Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense.
Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and
kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the
Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate
anything.
On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horac
Thanks for that! Remember the brochures for the Ram & Rom? They were
described as go anywhere road bikes, with photos of the bikes off
road. And many of us have discovered, the Ram/Rom can take a lickin'
off road. I'm not sure I'd do the same with a Roadeo, which is made
for the road. This bei
-- Forwarded message --
From: "gr...@rivbike.com"
Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm
Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some)
To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO<---final name, final spelling, thanks
for all your input and don't take offense.
> This is really Mark's bike, b
I recall Grant's early post on the then up-coming Roadeo saying 6-4-6
for the main triangle, and I assume he was talking about a size that
fit him - maybe a 58cm? That would certainly make for a "lively"
ride!
I have a 54cm Rambouillet, and I too think it is overbuilt for
spirited riding. In fac
>From what I recall, the smaller frame sizes use heat-treated OS tubing
with .6/.38/.6. butts and bellies.
My memory is not so good on the larger frame sizes, but something like
OS .8/.5/.8 seems to ring a bell (but don't quote me on it).
Grant outlined it in a post on this list, but I cannot fin
The tubing on the larger roadeos is still a bit of a mystery. 59 and
up are "a touch heavier" for what that is worth. When I ordered mine
they explained that it was quite similar to a Legolas, but possibly
lighter in the stays and fork because they do not have to braze on
brake bosses. As for th
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