On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 21:10 -0700, William wrote:
> I'd buy one of those Rivendells, if they didn't all need one of those
> 'signature' drivetrains. Drivetrains just act as a shelf to collect
> mud. I'm going to order one of those drivetrainless bikes, so I can
> remain mud free when I slog throu
I'm more intrigued by this bike all the time. I agree with others that
1.125 stems are an improvement, headset adjustment wise. But I still
prefer 1-inch quill stems, aesthetically, so that's a plus to me. And
downtube shifter bosses - hella yes! And if you don't like em, see if
your LBS has some o
I'd buy one of those Rivendells, if they didn't all need one of those
'signature' drivetrains. Drivetrains just act as a shelf to collect
mud. I'm going to order one of those drivetrainless bikes, so I can
remain mud free when I slog through the mud.
On Apr 7, 8:51 pm, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 4/
on 4/7/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had
been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf,
piling
Lucky! Did you get any information regarding pricing and release date?
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On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:14 -0700, EricP wrote:
> Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush
> accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion
> of the stays when it builds up over a few winters.
Certainly not a problem here in Northern Virginia.
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Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush
accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion
of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. (A similar
argument was recently conducted on the Surly LHT list. Someone there
indicated to me a powdercoat f
If you are in the market for a $1000 range cyclocross frameset with
optimal mud clearance, I agree that the Soma San Marcos is not your
best choice. Nor is the Hillborne.
On Apr 7, 3:08 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote:
> I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
> I rec
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>
> The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame,
> without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can
> always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate.
Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance
I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new "signature" kickstand plate.
I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had
been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf,
piling it up high behind the seat tube.
The kickstand plate seems to li
I was in SF on business and lucked into enough time to take Bart out
to Walnut Creek to visit Riv. I was fortunate enough to be able to
ride the very Soma pictured in the Riv PDF. When I came back after a
spin my face was hurting...from smiling so much. I would order one in
a heartbeat if I had
Interesting; thanks for posting that. I wonder what my frame was made from:
certainly oversized and quite light, but doubtless not as thinwall as tubing
for light road racers. Actually, I think a good part of the bike's appeal
was the frame design: IIRC, it was well balanced: not to twitchy, not to
On Apr 5, 6:38 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My
> 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very
> nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my
> brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb
I've got three kids, so have done my part to perpetuate the species...
it's all extranious bits now I suppose.
On 4/5/11, rcnute wrote:
> Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same
> sentence...
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote:
>> I don't believe anybody i
Hmm, "crotchal safety" and "unimportant differentiators" in the same
sentence...
Ryan
On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William wrote:
> I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end
> format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's
> assertion was that more Soma San
Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My
1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very
nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my
brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem beating
up sim
I don't believe anybody is handwringing over whatever their front end
format is. Both threaded and threadless work and work well. bfd's
assertion was that more Soma San Marcos framesets would be sold if it
were spec'd with a 1" threadless fork, because threadless is
mainstream even though 1" thre
Don't know the answers, but from what I can gather, present Prestige
has little to no relation to the old Prestige tubing. That was light,
heat treated tubing that had some serious restrictions on it for frame
builders. (This is all from 25 year old memories, so take with a grain
of salt.) If rem
I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is
fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I
don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good
with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the
big "7" of a quill stem s
On Apr 5, 2:32 pm, rperks wrote:
> I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it
> dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in
> Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming
> bike. Ok found
> ithttps://www.rivbike.com
On Apr 5, 2:09 pm, William wrote:
> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
> mainstream.
Why not? If you offer things familiar to what people want, it will
sell. Further, Riv does offer or onc
I would specualate that since the bike is using Riv style lugs that it
dictates the steerer size. Same thing with the Roadeo. Somewhere in
Grants style of blogging there was a more recent post on the upcoming
bike. Ok found it
https://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/364/original_oct1visus.pdf
K
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM, William wrote:
> 1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
> I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
> mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
> thinks are important. 1.125" threadless
1.125" threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think
I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more
mainstream. 1" threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv
thinks are important. 1.125" threadless is flat out better for
reasons that Riv thinks are enti
On Apr 5, 1:41 pm, William wrote:
> "They could still stay with 1" as there
> are shims to fit 1.25" stems."
>
> and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still
> fit threadless stems.
>
That's true, but those adapters are alot more bulky than incorporating
a threadless st
Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or recent
Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I
remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing
literature. The tubing had a nice, clear "ping" when you flicked it with
your fin
"They could still stay with 1" as there
are shims to fit 1.25" stems."
and there are adapters so they can stay with 1" threaded and still
fit threadless stems.
Also I presume you mean 1.125".
On Apr 5, 11:33 am, bfd wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:> maybe here :
>
> >http://s
On Apr 4, 2:03 pm, davidfrench wrote:
> maybe here :
>
> http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-...
>
I agree with one of the commenters, I don't understand why it will
have 1" threaded fork/headset. Sorry, but in today's market THREADLESS
headset should be standard
maybe here :
http://somafab.blogspot.com/2010/01/rivendell-collaborates-with-soma-on.html
On Apr 1, 4:59 pm, rcnute wrote:
> True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> > Calling Mer
True, but I figured summer 2011--maybe?
Ryan
On Apr 1, 1:53 pm, William wrote:
> Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
>
> On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote:
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
>
> > Ry
I asked Soma about this, and they said they will do a blog post when they
have more information. Nothing as of yet.
Eric
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:53 PM, William wrote:
> Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
>
> Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
>
>
Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :)
Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to get that info.
On Apr 1, 1:40 pm, rcnute wrote:
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
>
> Ryan
>
> On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote:
>
> > Has anybody heard the lastest about th
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/216
Ryan
On Apr 1, 12:08 pm, Richard Merkin wrote:
> Has anybody heard the lastest about the release of the bike they are
> working on together?
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