[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-06 Thread Bruce
. From: William F. House To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 10:22:28 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint Okay, I was going to wait until the weekend to post pics, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-06 Thread Rene Valbuena
riginal Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William F. House Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:21 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint Rene, I mean well when I say this too: there's NO

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread William F. House
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William F. House > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:46 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint > > Thank you. Now I feel a little more sane

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread rcnute
gt; From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William F. House > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:46 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint > > Thank you. Now I feel a little more sane. I don't

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread Rene Valbuena
esser compelling reason to sell yours. All the best, Rene -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William F. House Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 9:46 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread james black
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 20:22, William F. House wrote: > Okay, I was going to wait until the weekend to post pics, but I've > snapped a few tonight with the bike under the lights in our kitchen. Thanks for the pics. My reaction is that I probably would not have thought to complain had I received

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread William F. House
Thank you. Now I feel a little more sane. I don't think I was expecting the bike to be utterly flawless, but for nearly $4000 there sure are a lot of little flaws. Rides like a dream though. And it's very hard to spot those little flaws while I'm riding. So, there's that. ;-) On Nov 5, 10:40 pm,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread cyclotourist
I wouldn't be happy with that paint detailing. The paint was better on my $650 Bleriot (best detail pic I have). This is a $2000 frame with a $300 up-charge for custom color. DE On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:28 PM, rob markwardt wrote:

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread rob markwardt
You have a beautiful bike but it just shows we've all got different standards. I honestly don't think I've ever even looked at my bikes paint that closely...with my rapidly advancing far-sightedness I don't know if I could even see it! However, even I can spot the shoddy lug painting my 72 PX-10.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread William F. House
Also, note that in the first photo linked that just to the upper right of the uppermost lug curly-cue above the headbadge there's a line of green just hanging out right on the cream white. It appears no attempt to clean that up was made. I'd say that's the worst of the errors. Two people that have

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread William F. House
Okay, I was going to wait until the weekend to post pics, but I've snapped a few tonight with the bike under the lights in our kitchen. These would be much better outside in the sunlight, but I believe they give an idea of what I'm talking about. I've crudely circled the flaws or sloppiness in red

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread cyclotourist
If I just had an extra $3,726 lying around... On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Esteban wrote: > > FWIW regarding Riv paint - This looks rather nice: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3590669671/sizes/l/ > > > On Nov 5, 7:40 pm, james black wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 16:46, John

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread cyclotourist
rsement of the Waterford quality. > This paint issue you speak of makes me lean to Waterford. > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William F. House > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:17 AM &g

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread Angus
I've had two Waterford build Rivendells, a Joe Stark built and Joe Bell painted Rivendell, two Toyo built Rivendells (one painted, one clear powder coated). The only "perfect" paint job was the Joe Bell one...and I chipped the top tube paint assembling the bike. I will probably have one of the f

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread Esteban
FWIW regarding Riv paint - This looks rather nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3590669671/sizes/l/ On Nov 5, 7:40 pm, james black wrote: > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 16:46, John Stoesser wrote: > > This paint issue you speak of makes me lean to Waterford. > > It seems rash to jump to

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread james black
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 16:46, John Stoesser wrote: > This paint issue you speak of makes me lean to Waterford. It seems rash to jump to the conclusion that Rivendell's custom paint job is no match for the one that Waterford would give you, based on hearsay from one guy. I would suggest you withh

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/5/09 4:46 PM, John Stoesser at jstoes...@comcast.net wrote: > Personally I think the customer has a beef. A sub-par paint job on a $4,000 > bike is unacceptable. A sub-par paint job on a $2,000 frame is unacceptable. > If you advertise a custom paint job, it should be in line with the quali

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread John Stoesser
m] On Behalf Of William F. House Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:17 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint Thanks for the informative words, Dustin. And yes, I'm out there riding daily. Let me see if I get what you're saying: Don't trust marketi

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, Ad Copy, and Paint

2009-11-05 Thread CycloFiend
on 11/5/09 9:49 AM, reynoldslugs at be...@perrylaw.net wrote: > > This discussion about paint and ad copy is interesting. I am in the > process of sending a couple frames (including a new Roadeo) to > Rivendell's painter, Rick. I seem to remember that the Reader carried > an article about Rick