[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread MichaelH
The sidewalls are definitly different. The Tserve are a solid black rubber; The Pasella are a beige (nylon?) fabric. I ride a lot of dirt roads and the tserves hold up a lot better. Michael On Jul 20, 6:21 pm, David Estes wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On M

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:38 PM, David Estes > wrote: > > I think so. I went Pasela -> Marathon -> Pasela. Marathons had more > volume > > but road "heavy". Paselas just feel great (I have 35mm Tourguards). > > > > > Do you have any expe

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread Mike
Hey Seth, I've used both the kevlar and steel bead versions and didn't really notice a difference. Definitely check out some 700x35s, whether Paselas or T-serves, I'm sure you'll enjoy them. mike On Jul 20, 2:18 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:38 PM, David Estes wrote: > > I t

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread Bruce
I ride the 26 x 1.5 Pasela (non TG) and at full pressure, they feel pretty fast, while still comfy. From: Seth Vidal To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 3:44:14 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Pasela Question On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:38

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:38 PM, David Estes wrote: > I think so.  I went Pasela -> Marathon -> Pasela.  Marathons had more volume > but road "heavy".  Paselas just feel great (I have 35mm Tourguards). > Do you have any experience with kevlar vs steel beads? Does it change the ride much? -sv -

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread JGS
I just switched out 26 x 1.25 Tservs for 1.5 inch Marsthon Racers and am very happy. I'd say the racers feel almost exactly as fast as the narrower tservs. The 1.5 in Pasela Tourguards I had felt considerably slower. I also got my first flat in over a year. Maybe just coincidence, but we'll se

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:38 PM, David Estes wrote: > I think so.  I went Pasela -> Marathon -> Pasela.  Marathons had more volume > but road "heavy".  Paselas just feel great (I have 35mm Tourguards). I'm glad I wasn't alone there. I started with the marathons when I got the atlantis and the bik

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM, David Estes > wrote: > > May your kindness be re-paid sevenfold. :-) > > > > As to Paselas, yes, their sidewalls are a bit delicate (Tourguard and > > regular). > > Does this explain why they seem to ride so

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:18 PM, David Estes wrote: > May your kindness be re-paid sevenfold.  :-) > > As to Paselas, yes, their sidewalls are a bit delicate (Tourguard and > regular). > Does this explain why they seem to ride so much nicer? I traded from schwalbe marathons to paselas TG and it

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread David Estes
May your kindness be re-paid sevenfold. :-) As to Paselas, yes, their sidewalls are a bit delicate (Tourguard and regular). DE On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 AM, doug peterson wrote: > > The mention of sidewall cuts reminds me that the stock Paselas > suffered mightily from off roading. Never

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread doug peterson
The mention of sidewall cuts reminds me that the stock Paselas suffered mightily from off roading. Never actually had a failure but lots of small cuts in the sidewalls. The T-serv on the rear took the abuse so well that I changed out the front Pasela before it wore out. Of course this shouldn't

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-20 Thread MichaelH
I have used both tires for the past few years, especially for commuting. The Tservs are definitely more durable and puncture resistant. The sidewalls last a lot longer. The Pasellas (TG) probably ride just a little better but I haven't experienced any difference in sticktion or cornering. For co

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-19 Thread David Estes
Can I draft you? On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Mike wrote: > > I've been using 700x35 Protex T-Serves on my Hilsen for the past > couple of weeks and I'm really happy with them. To me they seem to > offer the same ride as Pasela Tourguards. I'm hoping that the > sidewalls will hold up better

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-19 Thread Mike
I've been using 700x35 Protex T-Serves on my Hilsen for the past couple of weeks and I'm really happy with them. To me they seem to offer the same ride as Pasela Tourguards. I'm hoping that the sidewalls will hold up better. I'm going to use them this Tue on a 300k ride I'm doing with a friend. Th

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-07-19 Thread doug peterson
T-servs were the first replacement for the Paselas that came on my Atlantis. Definitely heavier, more sluggish and puncture resistant, with about 4,000 miles of life (rear) vs about 3K for Paselas (not sure which ones I had). dougP On Jun 29, 8:51 am, Beardpapa wrote: > I posted this on anothe

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-29 Thread Beardpapa
Great, thanks Nick. I opted for the Pasela's and put in my order with my LBS. On Jun 29, 2:39 pm, Nick Bull wrote: > I found the TServ's very dicey in wet conditions.  They're sluggish > because they're very rugged and the profile is somewhat "pointed" > instead of being nicely rounded.  Perhap

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-29 Thread Nick Bull
I found the TServ's very dicey in wet conditions. They're sluggish because they're very rugged and the profile is somewhat "pointed" instead of being nicely rounded. Perhaps unfairly, I view them as being partially responsible for a nasty crash on an off-camber turn in the pouring rain -- so I s

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-29 Thread Beardpapa
Thanks Seth! On Jun 29, 10:58 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Beardpapa wrote: > > > I posted this on another thread by didn't get any answers.  Anyone > > ride T-servs before?  How do they compare with Paselas? > > I've got the tservs PTs with the reflective strip on o

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Beardpapa wrote: > > I posted this on another thread by didn't get any answers.  Anyone > ride T-servs before?  How do they compare with Paselas? > I've got the tservs PTs with the reflective strip on our tandem. They are more rigid than the skin-wall paselas but

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-29 Thread Beardpapa
I posted this on another thread by didn't get any answers. Anyone ride T-servs before? How do they compare with Paselas? Thanks! On Jun 28, 8:38 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 17:51 -0700, hihi wrote: > > I have what may be a stupid question about Paselas.  When people say

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 17:51 -0700, hihi wrote: > I have what may be a stupid question about Paselas. When people say > they prefer the non tourguard Paselas, does that mean the steel bead > Paselas? When I say that, that's exactly what I mean. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-28 Thread Jim Cloud
Sorry, but I need to refine the reply that I gave to your thread. I believe that you're correct, the "non"-TG model of the Pasela does have a steel wire bead. Only the TG model is available as an Aramid bead folding model (in addition to a steel bead model). Jim On Jun 28, 5:51 pm, hihi wrote

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-28 Thread JGS
I think maybe I wasn't clear. I know that the tourguards are the folding kevlar models, but people say they prefer the non-tourguards. >From what I can tell the only other option is the wire bead model. Or is there some other model I don't know about? Thanks! On Jun 28, 9:18 pm, Jim Cloud wr

[RBW] Re: Pasela Question

2009-06-28 Thread Jim Cloud
No, they're referring to the Kevlar belt that is under the tread for flat protection. The TG tire is available in both folding and wire bead models. Jim On Jun 28, 5:51 pm, hihi wrote: > I have what may be a stupid question about Paselas.  When people say > they prefer the non tourguard Pasela