[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Pesce
I read the book and highly recommend it also. Very pragmatic, not didactic. Sort of a balance of "vehicular" and "invisible" cycling strategies, which always struck me as the right way to go about it.. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owne

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-31 Thread Bob
I am going to purchase (or somehow read) that book. Thanks for the recommendation. What gives me the idea that the author is onto something is the bit you offer about not creeping ahead of cars. For this it's just common courtesy not to cause a motorist to have to re- pass you by doing this. When I

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-30 Thread Mike S
This a truly outstanding book on the "art" of co-existing with vehicles while asserting your rights and respecting drivers, even when they're cravenly insane: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Cycling-Bicycling-21st-Century-America/dp/B002KE48D4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306810945&sr=8-1 I've only had a cha

Re: [RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-30 Thread Ken Freeman
I hope that education did not cost you money! On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Bob wrote: > Indeed. Rules vary from country to country in Europe as well. Just got > back from Köln, the land of dynamos, and learned that it is law to > have forward (white) and rearward (red) lights from dusk to da

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-30 Thread Bob
Indeed. Rules vary from country to country in Europe as well. Just got back from Köln, the land of dynamos, and learned that it is law to have forward (white) and rearward (red) lights from dusk to dawn, and rear flashers are illegal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-29 Thread Ken Freeman
In the USA we have 50 states, each with from dozens to hundreds of counties. The authorities with the right to impose constraints on traffic includes these, but also may include the towns and cities. It's difficult to say much about US traffic regulations, because there are differences from place

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-29 Thread Bob
So in the US it is legal to pass a motor vehicle on the left, in the same lane? If so, the overtaking laws somewhat mirror UK law, just different sides of the road. Thanks. On May 28, 4:56 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > In this state, IIRC it is legal to pass on the right (curb side) if there is > a

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-29 Thread Bob
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[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-29 Thread Bob
Actually, there was a cyclist killed here by wing mirrors (or at least the chain of events was triggered by being struck by wing mirrors) not too long ago, so you're not wrong. I don't want to paint a grim picture of cycling in the UK, because taking in the natural beauty is well worth the risks t

Re: [RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Bob wrote: [snip] > the ability to filter is a big reason that I depend on a bicycle for > commuting and > general transportation. Traffic is a major problem here (and getting > worse, petrol prices be damned), so the ability to wheedle-dee up the > middle is a

Re: [RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-28 Thread Tim McNamara
In this state, IIRC it is legal to pass on the right (curb side) if there is a bike lane or a shoulder. It is technically not legal to pass on the right in the traffic lane, although bicyclists do this all the time at stop lights and the police do not hassle them. Otherwise, because bicyclists

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-28 Thread Bob
Hi Michael, I ask because a colleague of mine asked me, and I didn't know the answer (I did some Googling, but the answers seemed to be different and contradictory from state to state, so I was hoping for an "overall" overtaking guideline). I also ask because the ability to filter is a big reason

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-28 Thread MichaelH
Depends on whether there is a bike lane / or significant shoulder (which are technically & legally different here); and whether or not the cars are moving. In a bike lane it is legal and reasonably safe to pass on the right. Without a lane I will pass a long line of stopped cars on the right, but

[RBW] Re: Overtaking Motor Vehicles on a Bicycle

2011-05-28 Thread Bob
The law here is to pass on the right (we drive on the left side of the road). To overtake from the kerb side is an offense on a motorbike (it's called "undertaking", and is tantamount to reckless driving). Undertaking on a bicycle is frowned upon, but not uncommon. On May 28, 8:20 am, Anne Pau