[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-05 Thread kavalk
I had a set of 40h Phil Wood/Super Champion 58s back in the early 80s built up at Braxton's Bicycle Shop. The spokes were 14 gauge non- butted DT. Never got over that two of the spokes broke at the threaded end on the non-freewheel side. I would guess it was a manufacturing error when the thread

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread MichaelH
There is a difference between 26" and 700C wheels and a difference between box and V shaped rims. A 26" wheel will always be stronger than a 700c wheel with the same # of spokes and equal wheel building skill. A V shaped rim will always be stronger than a box rim of similar metal. A 700C, 36 spo

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread SISDDWG
Some think 40 and 48 holes are excessive for loaded touring. Indeed, many have crossed the country with 36 holes. Also, many get along without health insurance. I crossed the U.S.A. with 40 front and 48 rear and never gave the wheels a thought. I knew that if one or even two spokes broke I had insu

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread JoelMatthews
> Of course, those Maxicar hubs use freewheels, and they're not as easy to > find as cassettes, either. If one failed on a tour you might be hard > pressed to find a replacement -- even more so if French threaded. I have been a mad MaxiCar collector (horder?) for years now. The two wheel sets I

Re: [RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Shaun Meehan
I have a set of 40h Phil Wood/Velocity Dyad wheels that Jim (Hiawatha Cyclery) built for me last summer on my Atlantis. I've put hundreds of miles on them now; many of which have been on gravel and even a few light trails. These wheels seem completely "bomb proof" so far. And I'm around 230 pounds

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread JoelMatthews
Dave: > However, aren't 40h hubs (Phil or otherwise) generally quite a bit more > expensive than 36h Shimano XT's? That is a good point. While 40h rims are not more expensive, if you are buying new hubs the market for 40h is small enough you will pay premium. NOS (and even good condition used

Re: [RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 07:49 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: > > I certainly do not think having 40h wheels are a critical for my > completing a tour. But overkill meaning what? Not like I have lost > anything having them. As my 40h wheels are built around smooth > rolling Maxicar hubs, I get a plush

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Dave Craig
Joel I agree. It is a matter of preference. I love having nice parts on my bikes whenever possible. Perhaps you are also right that the weight of 4 more spokes is insignificant. I haven't compared the weights of my 40h and 36h rear wheels, so I don't know. I also agree that choosing what goes into

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread JoelMatthews
> I agree with Dave... the 40 and 48 hole rims seem like overkill. I've > done week long tours on handbuilt 32h wheels. It is a matter of preference. 40h rims are not more expensive than 36h. A lot of choices on what goes into the panniers are going to have far more impact on weight than 4 spoke

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Michael_S
I agree with Dave... the 40 and 48 hole rims seem like overkill. I've done week long tours on handbuilt 32h wheels. I weigh about 190lbs .If you use good stiff rims ( Dyad's in my case), thr right spokes and fat tires a 36 hole rim is plenty. ~Mike On Feb 4, 7:29 am, Dave Craig wrote: > Gary > >

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Dave Craig
Gary I weigh 205 and I run the stock 26" rims on my Long Haul Trucker with Schwalbe Marathon Supremes (26x50). As I wrote in another post, the fatter tires are now my choice for all loaded tours. I know you didn't ask about your choice of 40h rims, but I thought I might add some unsolicited advic

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-04 Thread Peter Pesce
I put 36h RhynoLites on my commuter and they are almost absurdly strong. I'm 240, with a heavy, old steel MTB and a commuting load, and I regularly have to ride off curbs on a part of my route that is along a road under construction. No problem whatsoever on these rims. A 48h might as well be made

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-03 Thread JoelMatthews
> I use the 26" RhynoLite on my own touring bike, 48h rear and 40h front. Cool! I weigh 155 or so and carry moderate loads touring. But I love the look and security riding on 40h rims. The only 48h Maxicar hubs I could find were tandem width, otherwise I would have liked to have a 48h rear whee

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
There is no practical tire width limitation. I have many times run 2" or bigger tires on rims 24 mm or slightly narrower. If you need rims, I have a shocking number of 26" 40h rims, mostly Velocity Aeroheat (black) and Sun RhynoLite (polished silver). I use the 26" RhynoLite on my own touring bi

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-02-03 Thread Bike Hermit
Schwalbe has a chart on their website http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/technik_info/reifenmasse/?gesamt=7&ID_Land=38&ID_Sprache=2&ID_Seite=141&tn_mainPoint=Technik On Jan 28, 2:07 pm, Gary wrote: > I'm looking to get a new touring wheelset and would like some > feedback. The wheels will be 26", us

Re: [RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-01-29 Thread Bruce
20 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question Gary, I have a 26" wheeled All-Rounder that I have toured with. 32 spokes on the rear was marginal, 36 I didn't have a problem but I weigh 150 and don't carry a lot of gear. Riding loaded, off-road, I would go large on the ti

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-01-29 Thread Angus
Gary, I have a 26" wheeled All-Rounder that I have toured with. 32 spokes on the rear was marginal, 36 I didn't have a problem but I weigh 150 and don't carry a lot of gear. Riding loaded, off-road, I would go large on the tire size and see what rim the manufacturers recommend. Mine are 23mm ri

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-01-28 Thread MichaelH
For what it's worth, last season we outfitted a our touring tandem with the DaVinci V23 rim in 26" and put Marathon Racers 1.6 tires on it. The team weighs about 340 lbs( and the bike weighs about 40) and more than half our riding has been on dirt roads, no single track. Very strong rims, especial