Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-16 Thread S
No worries. My point is that, although the SH most closely matches the kind of frame I want, I am considering other Riv models as well, and frame geo is one of the factors I am weighing. I wouldn't rule out any frame for not exactly matching my ideal. In fact, most of my bikes are less than perf

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-15 Thread Mark Roland
My post wasn't meant to single you out, other than as random example of a trend we are mostly all caught up in some way or another. I'm not so precious about frame size as long as it's within range, but I have become a tire snob. Way too many dang tire choices out there right now. Though that c

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-14 Thread Joel Stern
On the previous numbers I was in the middle for a 51cm. I didn’t think the 51 has changed in any way but now I am no longer in the middle with an 80.6 PBH. On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 8:01 PM S wrote: > I admit to being picky, but then, I would guess this is true of most > posters in the group. Th

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-14 Thread S
I admit to being picky, but then, I would guess this is true of most posters in the group. The shorter stays and trad end caps were part of why I was interested in the SH to begin with, so if my ideal geo happens to fall between sizes, that's just one more check on the "con" side. Again, yes, I

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-14 Thread Mark Roland
The SH comes in five sizes, increments of 3cm from 48 to 60cm, so unless a person is unusually tall or short, or has proportions that generally "require" a custom geometry, I would think there is a sweet spot in there for the 99 percent. I realize there are other parameters than just seat tube

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread S
Maybe the "slightly longer" stays are truly that. And maybe I could get over the ball and socket ends. I hope photos of the actual frame change my mind. In any case, more depends on whether or not one of the frame sizes happens to fit the sweet spot for me. On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 12:

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks, I just pulled up the latest email, it got by me. “ The seattube sizes are slightly different this time. Here's the PBH range: 48cm 650b = 77-80cm 51cm 650b = 80-83cm 54cm 700c = 84-86cm 57cm 700c = 86-90cm 60cm 700c = 89-94cm The changes from the last batch are minimal: - Ball n soc

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread S
Yes, quite a few group members have called the SH the "perfect Riv," or words to that effect, and I was set to buy one when they became available. No longer. I wish they had left well enough, or maybe even "perfect," alone. I agree variety would be nice -- I don't think chainstay length is as c

Re: [RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread Joel Stern
S, this is the second time I have heard this in 2 days, here and on the FB RBW site. I would hope the chainstays in the Sam would remain the same so we would have some variety. I found an Orange Sam, new at a decent price but I am not sure on the orange, but now it is a big maybe. On Sun, Sep 13

[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread S
I agree that the design looks very close to the Avid Shorty. I still plan to buy a pair, if they aren't too expensive. I like that Riv is offering more original parts and tools. I think this could be a growth area for them, especially the tools, which usually sell out instantly. And since their

[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-13 Thread Garth
I was hoping for a simpler, old-school sort of cantilever, more like the Rene Herse version which while wildly priced, ticks all the boxes of what I'd like in a cantilever brake (Post style pads with toe-in washers, pads open up wide past the frame). I can't say much about the Riv design tho

[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-12 Thread Daniel M
I believe Grant is also working on a V-brake and I will certainly buy a set the moment they become available. Daniel M Berkeley, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails f

[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

2020-09-12 Thread Jason Fuller
>From an engineering perspective, I was meh on the new canti brake design, to be honest. The arms are hollowed in the direction that reduces stiffness during braking forces, and the fact the allen end is blocked by the canti arm would probably annoy me in use. Not that it's a bad looking brake