S, this is the second time I have heard this in 2 days, here and on the FB
RBW site.  I would hope the chainstays in the Sam would remain the same so
we would have some variety.  I found an Orange Sam, new at a decent price
but I am not sure on the orange, but now it is a big maybe.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 1:40 PM S <sbl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree that the design looks very close to the Avid Shorty. I still plan
> to buy a pair, if they aren't too expensive.
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> I like that Riv is offering more original parts and tools. I think this
> could be a growth area for them, especially the tools, which usually sell
> out instantly. And since their frame designs have begun to diverge from my
> tastes -- eg, I am disappointed the new Hillborne will have ball and socket
> seat stay ends and longer chainstays -- the parts and tools give me a way
> to keep supporting them.
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> On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 2:29:59 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
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>> I was hoping for a simpler, old-school sort of cantilever, more like the
>> Rene Herse version which while wildly priced, ticks all the boxes of what
>> I'd like in a cantilever brake (Post style pads with toe-in washers, pads
>> open up wide past the frame).
>>
>> I can't say much about the Riv design though as I've not seem them in
>> person as to how they work, or tire/frame clearance and all. The blueprint
>> appears complicated though.
>>
>> Cantilevers matter to me, I prefer what the bike industry must consider
>> "not very user friendly" as I find that comical as they ARE friendly ! The
>> kind with post style pads and washers for toe in. Infinite adjustabilty.
>>
>> V-brakes and "user friendly" ?  Nah ... what fun is that ? !!!
>>
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