[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-24 Thread Ron Mc
my annoying chirp exposed itself. Went over the rear brake setup, took the wheel in for tighten and true - it persisted. Never right off, but showed up after a 100 yds or so, and always there, chriping on 1xR with the rear wheel, disappearing on right turns. I watched it enough I saw exactly

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-23 Thread lungimsam
Jim Langley's site was, I think, the first site I visited to learn about bike riding. It has a warm place in my heart. I learned a lot and gained confidence about wrenching from his site. I learned there to use my rear trunk bike rack as a repair stand. So simple and effective!! He was also alwa

RE: [RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-23 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Great site -- lots of good information and ideas. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lungimsam Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:41 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Drive Train

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-20 Thread Deacon Patrick
Brilliant! Saved it to my files for future reference (If I remember to look. Sardonic grin.). With abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:41:05 AM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote: > > Just look at Jim Langleys page on detecting bike noises: > > http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-20 Thread Ron Mc
thanks for the link - gave me a couple of ideas on a new wheel chirp On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 9:41:05 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: > > Just look at Jim Langleys page on detecting bike noises: > > http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html -- You received this message because you are su

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-20 Thread lungimsam
Just look at Jim Langleys page on detecting bike noises: http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/keepitquiet.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-17 Thread Deacon Patrick
Good find, Tim! For something as mechanically "simple" as a bicycle, it sure is hard to pinpoint some things! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-17 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm glad you seem to have solved the problem Patrick. I tore the Hilsen apart two or three weeks ago and gave it a good cleaning (it's filthy again!) I had one good, long, 75 mile ride and since then it has been acting up. Kind of a skip or ghost shift in the drivetrain. In the past that has sim

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Don Compton
Deacon, Just a thought. It seems to me that you ride in some damp weather. I live in California and our climate is more moderate, but I still will remove my BB and grease the threads and replace from time to time. I think many of us on this forum ride a few more hours than the normal "Joe" and a

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I did. I looked for cracks everywhere. including inside the tapers. So, I'll re-tighten in a wee while and be good to go for another three years or more! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsub

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Ron Mc
I know you ride hard. Hate to tell you to pull the crank again, but did you check the inside taper corners for cracks? On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 1:42:38 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I wouldn't call either cup loose, but both tightened from 1/12th of a turn. > > With abandon, > Patric

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Benedikt
You probably know this but recheck the torque on the crank bolts after a few hundred miles. The cranks seem to settle in after some riding. Probably one of the reasons why most bike shops offer a free tune up after 30 days on a new bike. Hope your mystery noise is gone! On Sunday, March 15, 201

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
I wouldn't call either cup loose, but both tightened from 1/12th of a turn. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Anton Tutter
Great! I figured it was the BB based on all the available information. Were both cups loose are just one? Which one? Anton On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 12:44:32 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Tentative success! I've only done a wee test ride, but that with lots of > torque up a steep hil

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Longer test ride: silent! Blessedly silent! Thank you, everyone! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsu

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Tentative success! I've only done a wee test ride, but that with lots of torque up a steep hill. Blessed silence! It was either the BB cups being ever so slightly loose or the re-seating of one of the crank arms. Thank you for popping down this rabbit hole with my! With abandon, Patrick On Sun

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Surlyprof
I had a similar problem where I was having problems with a clicking noise when I pedaled with force but not in the stand. I had to remove the crank arm an re-attach it several times before it stopped. Even though I had cranked the bolt down, it kept coming loose because it wasn't seated on the

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's Riv's standard BB (Tange or Shimano, but most likely Tange), new with the bike 3 years ago. Jim, chain is good (first thing I checked), and it happens at the same point in the pedal stroke regardless of gear, so I think that eliminates the rear half of the drive train? -- Rear hub is solid

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Stiff chain link? Pedal the drivetrain backward - you'll see the stiff link jump funny through the derailleur . Also, with the rear wheel clamped into frame, grab the tire and see if there's any side-to-side play in the rear hub. Then with the drivetrain unweighted, grab the cogset and see i

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Anton Tutter
Ok, getting closer. What model BB is installed? It was common for the Shimano UNxx series with plastic NDS cup to develop creaks under torque, but creaking can happen to most any cartridge BB. The fact that the clicking is happening with the DS crank at 5:30-6:00 suggests that the clicking is

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
Update: - Swapped pedals, tightened (slightly) chain rings: noise still happens riding, occuring constantly with medium to hard pedaling, occasionally with light pedaling. - In stand with chain, noise undetectable, felt slightly when added resistance with brake and pedaling with

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Deacon Patrick
And chainring teeth are all straight and do not shoe much wear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread Anton Tutter
Patrick, Could you give us more information? - What happens with the right crank installed without the chain? - This could point to chain/chainring interface problems. - Does the noise occur both on the repair stand and when riding the bike or only one or the other? - Noises not he

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-16 Thread David Spranger
Hah! I just spent untold hours diagnosing a similar noise that did end up being a crooked chainring tooth! DAvid Charlotte, NC On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 10:09:15 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The other guesses are more likely, but I'd check the chainring teeth, too, > assuming there's onl

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-15 Thread Joe Bernard
The other guesses are more likely, but I'd check the chainring teeth, too, assuming there's only one ring this is happening on. Chain grabbing a crooked tooth? On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 2:58:56 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Hunqapillar mystery: I’ve removed my front derailer and the ent

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-15 Thread DMG
Check pedals, also, although the bolts are a much more likely culprit. Dan, DC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@

[RBW] Re: Drive Train Mystery Sound

2015-03-15 Thread David Banzer
Check the chainring bolts. Make sure they're good and snug. Could be something else, but that's the first thing I check when I have a sound like that, which happened today in fact. David Chicago On Sunday, March 15, 2015 at 4:58:56 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Hunqapillar mystery: I’ve re