On Oct 31, 6:46 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
> heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
yes. and that's kind of my point. some events have a dedicated ss
category because it's not really a f
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> your effing funny Patrick!
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Just watched. Very impressive, for the speed, the handling -- and, for
me, how they managed that deep sand with such skinny tires: I know
sand, and their performance in that spot is amazing.
Tangent: Bicycle racing has a history of bad cinematography; you
certainly see it in old movies of Coppi an
Thanks, Patrick; have marked both this and t'others to watch at home
via Comcast instead of here via weak wireless.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Nov 1, 10:31 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the details. Interesting
>
> here's what top level racing looks like
On Nov 1, 10:31 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>Thanks for the details. Interesting
here's what top level racing looks like -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WMOA7dbH0
it's incredible how these riders attack these courses on what are
essentially road bikes with tubular tires no bigger than 33mm.
o
Thanks for the details. Interesting; much like other discussions I've
had about pros and cat 1s on steel bikes for pavement racing -- the
consensus is that even a few lbs can make you lose and that steel, for
that reason, is not competitive at the *highest* levels of road
racing. (Lugs are certain
On Nov 1, 3:38 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>IOW would a cat 1 on a ss possibly competitive against his own category
> peers on multispeeds?
No, not in a UCI level event. Again, it's just too fast. not sure
why this controversial. these folks ride through mud, sand, obstacles
faster than most peo
Are the ss-ers of the same abilities as the Cats in question? IOW,
would a cat 1 on a ss possibly competitive against his own category
peers on multispeeds? Or are all the ss-ers of lower caliber?
I know Bruce Boyson of the boblist, an avid and very experienced
offroader, is usually at the front o
I haven't used it yet, but can tell it's a pretty good way to carry h20
around.
Lies flat, compresses to nothing when empty. Hopefully well made.
Thanks for the suggestion!
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM, rperks wrote:
> It may have been me, I have a big and a small one that I use for my
> lo
It may have been me, I have a big and a small one that I use for my
longer rides. They fit into the bags better than extra bottles on
their sides. I was carrying water in sig bottles, then switched to an
old hydration pack that I used to refill bottles, which gave way to
the platipus bags. Where
On Oct 31, 6:46 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
> heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
sometimes, yes. and that's kind of my point. some events offer a
dedicated ss category because it's not
Back in the day...when I lived and raced Cyclo-cross in So Cal (on a
Rivendell), Mark Salmon, the owner of TCB cyclery in Fullerton CA (now
closed) showed up to a cyclo-cross on a single speed, pronouncing it
to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. I was a regular at his
shop.
During his rac
Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick in VT wrote:
> On Oct 31, 12:20 pm, Beth H wrote:
> >
> > Indeed. Last weekend at PIR, I suffered on the mo
On Oct 31, 12:20 pm, Beth H wrote:
>
> Indeed. Last weekend at PIR, I suffered on the mostly flat course with
> long straight stretches.
> Anywhere there was a short, steep climb I found I was able to stand up
> and pass several women along the way. An amazing experience, and one
> that pretty muc
Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
> Depends a bit on the course. Long, steady descents or extended flat
> straight bits tend to favor a multi-geared. But, if you generally have a
> climbing course with sharp descents (where no one will be pedaling down) and
> lots of technical bits, then the ss folk can do
on 10/29/10 12:17 PM, Patrick in VT at swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>> Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good
>> candidate for a ss: say 60" to 65"; I used to use 63" for allrounder
>> dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see anyone twidd
I think Rob mentioned the Platypus bottles. I have owned a few of them
and use them backpacking every trip for around camp and longer
waterless sections. I'll bring a 1L one for the ride in two weeks.
I am going to ride the new-to-me Ram. Gotta pick up some fatter
tires.. thinking about a 35 or 3
And I only have to bottle holders. I ride an inferior bike.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles.
> That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy
> for washing out scrapes too.
>
> dougP
On Oct 29, 10:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> > On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> > (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really
> >> competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields),
>
> Is this because of the type of course, or overall? >
> Not doubting, just asking. And I know n
The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles.
That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy
for washing out scrapes too.
dougP
On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist wrote:
> I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?)
> said
I got the 2L container, as I can put 1L in the 2L, but can't easily put 2L
in the 1L.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 5:35 AM, EricP wrote:
> Well, on that easy ride we did last year around San Diego, ended up
> severely dehydrated. Drank two large bottles on the ride and that
> still wasn't enough. D
Well, on that easy ride we did last year around San Diego, ended up
severely dehydrated. Drank two large bottles on the ride and that
still wasn't enough. Derrick had to give me one of his bottles to
finish the ride. (That was after the second stop to repair a flat.)
So, yeah, too much is proba
Yeah, this is probably overkill, but it can't hurt to have!
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Since my gofast has, alas, provision for only one bottle cage (and I
> don't want to use a strap one one), I simply use a discarded PET soda
> or paid-for-water bottle in my saddle
Since my gofast has, alas, provision for only one bottle cage (and I
don't want to use a strap one one), I simply use a discarded PET soda
or paid-for-water bottle in my saddlebag or jersey pocket -- won't
leak, convenient shape and sizes, and you can discard (properly) when
you are done. When it i
I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?)
said these work pretty good in a saddle bag:
http://www.rei.com/product/797977
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing
> the bike t
There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing
the bike thru some boggy looking stuff & the pedals were turning. Of
course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may
have started the day SS & was now fixed! You're right; hard to know
what the total cou
I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of
water.
As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were
fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess
what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind o
Patrick:
Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty
funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn
won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm-
up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a
cruise out the
> On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT wrote:
> (in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really
>> competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields),
Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single
63" gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in the
video, with
Well, it looked pretty flat and the water crossings & general abuse
the bikes were put to would be hard on derailers. Looked like even
the pastures were pretty tough going and the few road sections full of
holes. Maybe a hub shifter would be appropriate. Of course, if
you're gonna toss your bike
On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good
> candidate for a ss: say 60" to 65"; I used to use 63" for allrounder
> dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see anyone twiddling and a sub 65" gear is
> low enough to get you through surprisingly
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