On Jan 8, 2010, at 5:47, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 03:18 -0800, EricP wrote:
2. Yes with a caveat - it has to last more than 1000 miles. It's one
reason I never have and never will buy a Grand Bois tire. With my
body weight of 230, 1k appears to be a best case scenar
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 6:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
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> Unless I am run over by a truck this touring season, when the tire
> debates start next winter I should have a pretty decent set of
> anecdotal arguments. Until then ...
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Be sure to take notes!!! :-)
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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA
"B
> 36 spokes on a 559 wheel for 165 lb, even with load, seems excessive; tho'
> of course my wheels have no dish. My brother, 200+ with laptop on back, used
> to bunnyhop the 28 spoke Mavic wheels on his (multispeed, read wheel dished)
> XO2 with no problem. I carry 45 lb loads on a 32 hole 622 rim
To answer Steve's question of whether I'd pay $60 for a 559 tire: no.
I wouldn't pay $60 for a 700C or 650B or 27" tire either. Bike tires
last less than a year on the rear wheel and are basically a
disposable commodity. I'll pay up to $25 for a bike tire and even
that seems like robbery
On Jan 8, 7:47 am, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> The Hetres last a lot longer than 1,000 miles. I've not heard anybody
> claim such low mileage for them.
>
> The Grand Bois Cypres 700x30s, outlast 1,000 miles too, come to that.
> 230's not that far from my experience: last spring I was 220, and that's
Riv content: two custom Rivs.
I carry spare tubes and save the patching for the comfort of home and
garage. But yes, i can appreciate your POV.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:49 AM, EricP wrote:
> Last year, on a 60 mile ride in snow/rain mix, temp about freezing.
> Two flats on basically new Schwalb
36 spokes on a 559 wheel for 165 lb, even with load, seems excessive; tho'
of course my wheels have no dish. My brother, 200+ with laptop on back, used
to bunnyhop the 28 spoke Mavic wheels on his (multispeed, read wheel dished)
XO2 with no problem. I carry 45 lb loads on a 32 hole 622 rim and 30+
Last year, on a 60 mile ride in snow/rain mix, temp about freezing.
Two flats on basically new Schwalbe Big Apples. The second one was
close enough that rode 10 miles on the rim. This was on the Atlantis
(Riv-related content). Otherwise, this thread is going pretty far
afield from the group.
Al
Too bad we are not having this debate in 2011 rather than 2010.
If the custom bike gods favor me, by the end of the year I will have a
700 heavy duty touring bike, a 559 city - light touring, and a 650b
rando style bike. The 700 and 650 will both be kitted with 40 spoke
rims, Maxi-Cars front and
FWIW, 170 and 1,701 miles exactly from the rear Turbo with no casing showing
and punctures still very rare; swapped out because thread was paper thin,
proactively and not reactively. NM, not MN.
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:18 AM, EricP wrote:
> Not Tim, but will answer anyway.
> 1. Already do. Sch
I would -- for the record, and seriously, and not just to yank Steve's
chain. Tires are the most important component after frame and saddle, no?
Still thinking about 28 mm GBs for the Motobecane ...
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 19:08 -0600, Ti
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 03:18 -0800, EricP wrote:
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> 2. Yes with a caveat - it has to last more than 1000 miles. It's one
> reason I never have and never will buy a Grand Bois tire. With my
> body weight of 230, 1k appears to be a best case scenario for
> durability. At least with the road cond
Not Tim, but will answer anyway.
1. Already do. Schwalbe Marathon Supremes are more than that. Retail
is $70. And good studded tires are also in the $60 range. And I
happen to think the Nokian and Schwalbe studded tires are "high
end".
2. Yes with a caveat - it has to last more than 1000 miles
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 19:08 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> But such a tire would have 5000 times the market that a 650B tire
> has. There may be fewer than 1000 650B wheeled bikes in the US (I'd
> say it's quite likely but I've got no proof). 650B is a very, very
> minor player in the market
I'm with you Beth! Also 6'3"" - like R/ Alex - and have / have-had
multiples of both 700 and 559 bikes over the years. As I mentioned in
the previous 26 thread, aesthetics play a part in my preferences, but
I'm not sure enough has been done to really look at a 559-based frame
in ways that would el
On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:19 PM, beth h wrote:
At the end of a lengthy and thoughtful discussion between me and a
Riv-
owner who's mad for 650b, his upshot was that there just isn't enough
"passion" (his word), not enough mystique (my word) perhaps, to get
the bike industry excited about making su
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