Too bad we are not having this debate in 2011 rather than 2010.

If the custom bike gods favor me, by the end of the year I will have a
700 heavy duty touring bike, a 559 city - light touring, and a 650b
rando style bike.  The 700 and 650 will both be kitted with 40 spoke
rims, Maxi-Cars front and rear on the 700, Maxi-Car rear, Son front on
the 650.  The 559 will have 36 spoke rims, but will be disc which
ideally build up stronger.  I use Schwalbes on the 700, will use
Schwalbes on the 559 and Grand Bois on the 650.

I am just under 6' and 165 pounds.  I carry more than I ought to when
touring though.

Unless I am run over by a truck this touring season, when the tire
debates start next winter I should have a pretty decent set of
anecdotal arguments.  Until then ...

On Jan 8, 8:25 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, 170 and 1,701 miles exactly from the rear Turbo with no casing showing
> and punctures still very rare; swapped out because thread was paper thin,
> proactively and not reactively. NM, not MN.
>
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> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:18 AM, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Not Tim, but will answer anyway.
> > 1. Already do.  Schwalbe Marathon Supremes are more than that.  Retail
> > is $70.  And good studded tires are also in the $60 range.  And I
> > happen to think the Nokian and Schwalbe studded tires are "high
> > end".<grin>
>
> > 2. Yes with a caveat - it has to last more than 1000 miles.  It's one
> > reason I never have and never will buy a Grand Bois tire.  With my
> > body weight of 230, 1k appears to be a best case scenario for
> > durability.  At least with the road conditions in Minnesota.
>
> > Anyway, a skinny (to me), decent 559 tire shouldn't be that difficult
> > or expensive.  A 1.25 inch wide Pasela would probably fill the bill
> > for many folks.  And Panaracer lists those on the website.
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Jan 7, 9:17 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 19:08 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
> > > > But such a tire would have 5000 times the market that a 650B tire
> > > > has. There may be fewer than 1000 650B wheeled bikes in the US (I'd
> > > > say it's quite likely but I've got no proof). 650B is a very, very
> > > > minor player in the market which is ruled by 700C and 559 (not in
> > > > that order). A good 559 would have a much larger potential market by
> > > > several orders of magnitude.
>
> > > Two questions you have to ask yourself:
>
> > > 1. Would you pay $60 for a high end 559 tire?
>
> > > 2. Would you put up $120 to buy a pair of as-yet nonexistent high end
> > > 559 tires in order to make possible the development of the new tire?
>
> > > I'm guessing the answer is "no" to both.
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