Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-21 Thread JimD
This is perfect. Like the Intel folks say, 'only the paranoid survive' or something to that effect. And even then...stuff happens. -JimD On Jan 20, 2011, at 11:43 AM Jan 20, 2011, CycloFiend wrote: My long-standing mantra is to ride as if everyone around me is going to do the worst po

RE: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Kelly Sleeper
oups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Paulson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > I just ride as though invisible. I don't know how I could possibly ride as thoug

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/20/11 11:34 AM, Anne Paulson at anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: >> I just ride as though invisible. > > I don't know how I could possibly ride as though I were invisible. > Where I live, there are lots of streets that don't have shoulde

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > I just ride as though invisible. I don't know how I could possibly ride as though I were invisible. Where I live, there are lots of streets that don't have shoulders or bike lanes, and cars are faster than I am. And what about lights? Let'

RE: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Kelly Sleeper
wners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Paulson Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:55 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > It doesn't make sen

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > >> It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When >> traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop, >> you better stop. > > The point about the Idaho

Re: [RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:47 PM, grant wrote: > It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When > traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop, > you better stop. The point about the Idaho Stop is the cyclist still has to yield at stop signs. *If there

[RBW] Idaho Stop in NYC

2011-01-19 Thread grant
It doesn't make sense in NYC which is why it's the Idaho Stop. When traffic is thick, the drivers are mean, and you're expected to stop, you better stop. The key to the success of the Idaho Stop is that Idaho Drivers are kept on their toes, and there's just less traffic there. I rode a big ol' grou