Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

Hey Benz, I didn't know that the ratchet mechanism moves. I like to learn something new everyday, so thanks! Still, that overshift compensation seems like a fiddly business to me. I guess if I was attached to the idea of using Silver shifters, I'd still want to do an 8sp cassette. There isn't m

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I run a 12-32 with 47/42/26 on a Suntour Cyclone GT - I don't use the 12T cog with with 26T chainring, though - it will drag the chain on my derailleur cage. So for the chain difference and wrap, you can look at my setup as 14-32. Compared to modern derailleurs, the 36T chain wrap counts as m

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

That's a total tooth difference of 40, not what I would call mid range. I'm thinking more like 46/36/26 with a 12-27 kind of length. That's the range the ultra triple detailers have been designed for. It seems to me that the longer the cage the greater the chance of a vertical misalignment as

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

Hi Jim, Although the Silver shifter is half-ratchety and half-friction, there is something one can do to mitigate the "in between" situation you've described - overshift on the ratchet side and then pull back on the friction side. Remember that every time one shifts on the friction side, the "

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

Shimano XT RD-751 GS . Shifts up to 32T in back with a 46x36x24 up front. Jeff Hagedorn San Diego, CA USA On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:07:18 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > Which "mid range" derail

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

Which "mid range" derailler do you use with an 11-32? I'm not aware of anything I would call mid range that will work with a 32 and a triple crank. Michael On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:32:27 AM UTC-5, sameness wrote: > > This has been somewhat of my experience as well, though mostly on hil

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

This has been somewhat of my experience as well, though mostly on hills. I've been too lazy to try out the 8sp cassette I've had sitting around for... a very long time, so I've just gotten used to shifting early or going an extra click and trimming. Data points: SunTour ratchet bar-cons, Shiman

[RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I think it can work with practice. The derailleur made a bigger difference for me than the shifters, but I've only used bar-ends, and never Silvers. I've shifted 9sp friction with an XTR derailleur and Suntour barcons (ratcheting) for years on my mountain bike. It seems to work fine, but I tend

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

No problems at all shifting my 9-speed Riv Road with friction downtube levers. With a little practice, it works almost as easily as index shifting. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Feb 4, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Reid wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

On 02/05/2014 02:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I'd stick with 7/8 sp cassettes. Here's why. Riv's Silver shifter isn't a true friction shifter, but a ratchet. That means the shifter has a finite number of stops rather than an infinite number of position

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I've never been able to get friction to work reliably on 9sp in the situations I need. Heading into hills, starting out, anywhere where the torque amps up I would get the dreaded ghost shift and CH CHUNK! I would stick with 8sp, personally. -J -- You received this message because you are sub

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I'd stick with 7/8 sp cassettes. Here's why. Riv's Silver shifter isn't a true friction shifter, but a ratchet. That means the shifter has a finite number of stops rather than an infinite number of positions in true friction. If you try to shift to a position between the ratchet clicks, the shif

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I've shifted 9s friction for the past 15,000 miles on a Ram and a Saluki. Bar ends, but don't see that DT,would be different. No issues. On 2/4/2014 11:33 PM, Reid wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Riv AHH (would be my second Riv). My long time ride has simple down tube friction shifters with

Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

No problem friction shifting 9 speeds with Silver shifters set up as either thumbies or as bar-ends. But the easy hand-access makes very fine tuning not something that bothers me. I haven't tried downtube shifters like that, and given the more frequent fine tuning, the shifter location could ma

[RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes

I'm thinking of getting a Riv AHH (would be my second Riv). My long time ride has simple down tube friction shifters with a 6-cog freewheel. Down tube friction shifters just appeal to me, so I'm trying to figure out if that is a reasonable thing to do with more cogs. Some people have posted th