Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-20 Thread Michael Richters
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Is it the peculiar Dutch cycling infrastructure that causes more cycling in > The Netherlands, or vice versa? Do Denmark and Germany have such > infrastructure? Neither Denmark nor Germany has nearly the same quality of cycling infrastructur

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-20 Thread Peter Morgano
Again jealous of a community that doesn't outright hate cyclists like they do here in NYC. I am not a Bloomberg fan but he has done alot for cycling in our community here and he is hated for it. The issue is that everyone here is so incredibly important that the thought of them being inconvenience

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-20 Thread Marc Irwin
I think there is a symbiotic relationship between the growth of cycling and infrastructure. Over the past 40 years, the number of cyclists has grown making municipalities look at including them into the traffic infrastructure which in turn encourages more to take up cycling, etc, etc. Here in

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Is it the peculiar Dutch cycling infrastructure that causes more cycling in The Netherlands, or vice versa? Do Denmark and Germany have such infrastructure? Not being snarky, but I rather suspect that the main criterion for cycling growth is the number of cyclists. At any rate, the Economist was

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-19 Thread Michael Richters
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:57 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > And in the US and in London. > > http://www.economist.com/node/21562252 >From the first article: "Yet while the future looks bright, America will struggle to catch up with northern Europe, where the proportion of local trips done by bike ca

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-19 Thread bwphoto
Almost daily I see more and more old guys like me out doing the same thing I'm doing on a bike...running errands and just using a bike for getting around. This is something I hardly saw 10 to 15 years ago, there were very few of us riding for transportation let alone year around. Each time i ri

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-16 Thread cyclotourist
Long Beach, CA seems to be getting a lot of attention for it's bike infrastructure commitment. It's a medium sized city, similar to MLPS. Approximately half a million people, but is in the middle of the Greater LA megalopolis. Year round fantastic weather. On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Addison

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-16 Thread Addison Wilhite
Yes, I think smaller/midsized cities are really poised to reap benefits from cycling infrastructure if the people/cyclists can advocate and exert pressure (and elect people) who are willing to create better places to cycle. That is what we are seeing in Reno anyway. There have been hiccups along

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I think that in smaller cities and towns, the cycling infrastructure is more universally seen as a positive quality of life enhancement. Here in Minneapolis, I don't believe an anti-bike mayoral candidate could get elected in the foreseeable future. Gas hit $4 here today, by the way... On Satur

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-15 Thread Peter Morgano
The issue with these initiatives is that they alot of them are not set in stone. I am afraid here in NYC all the progress we have made can be unraveled in a few years by some short sighted politicians who want to take us back to the Robert Moses years. We already have Bill Deblasio stating that Blo

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'm a working father of 3, commuting by bike year-round in fair-weather Minneapolis (almost no snow last year!). I agree that Portland has more "bike culture", but we have them beat with infrastructure (we have more trails, they have more bike boulevards). On Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:58:

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-13 Thread robert zeidler
Slow and steady. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Robert Zeidler wrote: > >> Portland is the obvious leader in terms of infrastructure, and adoption of >> the cycling culture, in terms of alternative transportation. >> >> That said, it's

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-13 Thread Tim McNamara
On Sep 13, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Robert Zeidler wrote: > Portland is the obvious leader in terms of infrastructure, and adoption of > the cycling culture, in terms of alternative transportation. > > That said, it's economy is so-so, compared with Minneapolis or D.C. These > will have to be the p

Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-13 Thread Robert Zeidler
Portland is the obvious leader in terms of infrastructure, and adoption of the cycling culture, in terms of alternative transportation. That said, it's economy is so-so, compared with Minneapolis or D.C. These will have to be the places where this total integration is showcased for people to

[RBW] Cycling in the Economist

2012-09-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
And in the US and in London. http://www.economist.com/node/21562252 http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/2012/08/cycling-london http://www.economist.com/node/21556970 -- "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." -- Claude Cock