[RBW] Re: Bike for Catie

damn. been looking for one of those step-thru univega mountain mixtes for a while. seems like they got rid of the mixte stay after a year or so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiv

[RBW] Re: WTT/FS Baggins deluxe handlebar bag

hey david, just sent it out. here is the usps tracking 9505500011605211000135 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:22 AM, drew wrote: > sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails fr

[RBW] WTB or WTT sugino Xd2 double or triple 170mm arms

having some issues with pedal strike and knee creakiness on long rides. currently riding a triple xd2 with 175mm arms and im wondering if going to 170 would help. im 5'10 with an 86pbh. i've read that it makes little difference, but im curious and maybe you have one lying around. ideally, look

[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit (& ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!

it has 26x2.15 big bens. so, definitely a tire on the larger side of the spectrum. i understand the feeling like you should be able to figure it out yourself and not bother someone with questions, but i think this is a situation where it is totally appropriate. specific info about the clem's

[RBW] Re: Seeking first-hand test-fit (& ride) impressions of the Clem, from other in-betweeners!

no personal experience about that size, however, here is a word of possible reassurement. we bought the 45cm prototype clem (maybe sizes have changed slightly) for my fiance who has a pbh of 72-73. at the time of purchase, the website said standover was 71, and they were right. in looking at t

[RBW] xd2 triple to double/bb question

thinking about buying Christian's wide low xd2 to replace a perfectly fine triple xd2 (featuring an unused big ring) on my hunqapillar that is currently set up with a 113 bottom bracket. were i to do this, would i need a different length bb? i think this would work, but i just want to make sur

[RBW] Re: Pondering the Clem Complete

im not sure that We (the people with extra parts, multiple bikes, deeply held preferences, overthinkers etc.) are really the target market for the complete clems. not to say that i don't understand the frustration of a 700$ ultimatum minus information. im just guessing, but i would imagine ther

[RBW] Re: cutting down a stem?

thanks for the input and offers. unfortunately i need a 25.4, but i think ill try cutting mine down this weekend -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] cutting down a stem?

i'd like to get my handlebars (albatross) a little lower (saddle height), but the technomic stem is too long or the steerer is too tall. i dont have the machinery or tools or knowledge or desire to get into cutting a steerer. is cutting an 3/4-1inch off of a stem something that people do? and

[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,

bump and price reductions 85$ shipped red wings 50$ shipped swrve trousers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@goo

[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,

MUSA pants and Tektros are gone still have SWRVE pants and red wing chukkas. adding photos of the boots

[RBW] Re: Thinking about Clem Wheels - What rim for 60mm tires?

Rivendell sent our prototype with Velocity Atlas Rims and 2.15" big bens. hadn't previously seen the Atlas in person, but they are really nice. maybe not quite as wide as what you are talking about though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owner

[RBW] FS/FT swrve pants, musa pants, red wing chukkas, tektro cr720,

looking to get rid of these items. -SWRVE midweight slim trousers- 34x32. charcoal ish color. worn once and were too large. 65$ shipped http://swrve.myshopify.com/products/midweight-wwr-slim-trousers?variant=1068426297 -MUSA black pants- medium. also worn for about a minute and were too lar

[RBW] Re: Sugino Wide/Low Double Feedback -- Triple vs Double

i've been starting to wonder this same thing. i have the triple xd2 and find myself almost never using the big ring on the hunqapillar. i kind of figure that the weight differential is pretty minimal and that there is no real compelling reason to switch (other than the ongoing desire to keep ti

[RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

day=made. parts aside, i just feel good about being a human again. thanks justin and steve (who just doubled down on generosity in an email to me) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

[RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

very well said, Richard. > > you've an admirable amount of graciousness about the situation, while i have to stop myself from fuming. i am in 100% agreement that there is more to the story. the behavior makes so little sense and is repeated with every transaction, yet the reasons given/excuses

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

Richard, I got a similar set of postponements and stories. The funeral that he had to attend to was weeks ago. I kept asking for a refund or a tracking number and I would get responses that had neither...until no responses at all. The frustrating and suspect thing is that a paypal refund would t

Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

In the same boat here with regard to a saddle, which he told me he sent over a month ago. Finally the response I got was that he had to attend a funeral and he was not checking that email address anymorewhich is sort of frustrating. Sorta relieved it's not just me, because I was just about t

[RBW] security

I live in LA. First I had a wheelset stolen. Adapted to use the Sheldon technique. Then I had an entire bike stolen by cutting thru the budget u-lock. I learned from that and bought a real u-lock and pit lock skewers. Still had the front wheel stolen. Now I use a kryptonite ulock for the rear wh

[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem

well, i think there should be a noted difference between "slow" and "fun/lively/nimble/comfortable". i consider my hunqapillar to be fun/lively/comfortable, but it is also slower than most modern road/mountain bikes. knew it going in, love the bike for it. a lot of it is the way i have it set

[RBW] Hunq vs Clem

So I have a 54 hunq and my fiancé got the 46 Clem prototype. I can't reeaaallly speak to ride because I don't fit the 46. But here are my observations. Weight-similar Stoutness-similar Ride- hunq is potentially more aggressive. Could be a roadish bike with the right cockpit and wheels...though th

[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

peace of mind is a valuable thing. i am not over 200#, but i opted for a hunqapillar because i didnt want to worry about loading it up or taking it only on a certain type of terrain. l think the atlantis would've given the same assurance, and likely any riv model would do what i need it to do.

[RBW] Re: LHT vs Clem ??

here is our first family photo with the 46 clem and 54 hunqapillar on a late night trip. laid back, long and stout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: LHT vs Clem ??

the prototype clem we have is quite stout. i would venture to say that it is likely at least as thick walled as a lht and maybe even heavier in weight...havent actually weighed anything and im sure big tires are part of it, but it feels not so far off from my hunqapillar, which is a tank in the

[RBW] Re: Clem info for the Tall and Long

apologies for the interruptive, slightly off topic question. does anyone know the tubing diameter on the clem's? i have one of the bottleless prototypes and im trying to find the right clamp size to put some cages on. 28.6? 31.8? 34.9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Re: Flipped Albatross

yeah, also tried it for about an hour. really didnt like it. the curves and the amount/closeness/width of where it drops felt super wonky. interestingly, i have some VO upright bars that have a much more subtle rise and dont curve back as much. i like those a lot when upside down. -- You rece

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

thanks joe, awesome reference. exactly the kind of stated reasoning i was hoping for. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsub

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

im thinking it helps with stiffness under weight and dent resistance? it would be interesting to hear the impetus or thought process behind the change. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

agreed. those are the current specs and i think the weight difference is probably minimal as well. what i'm more curious about is what the benefit of straight 8 vs 9/6/9 is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe f

[RBW] Re: FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in

just listed this on ebay. buy it now is 575$, but will refund 75$ if any group members want it. On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:39:19 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my > girlfriend... then the complete Clem p

[RBW] Re: FS 1986 DB Apex 19 inch

ok, so i think ive resolved to ask for 140$ for everything but the shifters, brakes and saddle. On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 2:39:32 PM UTC-7, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > I have this 1986 diamondback apex bike that im getting rid of. i always > wanted to do something with it since

[RBW] FS 1986 DB Apex 19 inch

I have this 1986 diamondback apex bike that im getting rid of. i always wanted to do something with it since it has so much potential, but i never got around to it. it measures 19.5in center to top, and the standover with these smallish tires is 76cm. would be a great trail bike or loaded tour

[RBW] Re: ClemSamples on the BLUG

on the 46cm protovelo we have, there is absolutely no room for a water bottle on the back of the seat tube with or without a fender. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] Re: My Winter Projects

awesome. mind going into some detail about the qr basket? On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 11:17:27 AM UTC-7, Clayton wrote: > > This winter, I made a camera bag that is secured shut by magnets and clips > onto my Ortlieb handlebar bag frame. I also made a top tube Tenkara rod > bag, tent pole rac

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

well i just went ahead and asked, since i was asking other questions anyway. via Will "Atlantis and Hunqapillar are both straight gauge (not a bad thing!) os x platinum .8mm in the main triangle. The fork is tougher on the Hunqa and the chainstays are thicker... The geometries are different, b

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

i think that the clem and sam are different enough in function/ride and similar enough in price that you should go with the one that suits your needs the most. if you dont think youll want to use it to go fast on roads, but want something sturdy with big comfortable tires, then clem all the way

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Photos

> > Patrick, yeah. same boat over here. she's already asking me about bags and > baskets and easy first trips. it's cool. i think your wife will love hers. > Steve, i actually bought a b67 off of the group for the same curiosity reasons, but havent received it yet. ive only ever ridden b17s,

[RBW] Clem Smith Photos

so, i thought that since there seems to be a lot of people who will be getting their clems or clementines in a number of months, that i would try to post some more photos to make the wait easier. we took delivery of this little guy on friday. it is the 46cm prototype purchased for my 5'1 girl

[RBW] Re: FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in

ubing throughout and a cool extra spoke holder/chainstay protector If anyone is interested in one of those On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 9:39:19 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my > girlfriend... then the complete Clem

[RBW] FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in

so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my girlfriend... then the complete Clem prototypes went on sale and now she has a little green protovelo, and is in love. (photos of that coming soon) anyway, im looking to sell the 1990 trek 520 i was working on. USA made, lu

[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories

still keeping my eye out for a green *carradice camper *or *medium saddlesack*, and *small panniers*. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to r

[RBW] Re: Clem PreSale.

Does this put you at 7, Deacon? Who is the current keeper of the largest fleet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...

[RBW] Re: Protovelo questions

ooh what is the renovelo? On Monday, March 2, 2015 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > so, i purchased the little green Clem Smith Jr prototype for my fiance > (right as i was halfway through building up a 1990 trek 520 for her. will > be selling it, if anyone is int

[RBW] Re: Clem Questions

i've been following the progression of the clem, but have no insider information. so, i think, from what i've read it is meant to be an all arounder with some trail (fat tire clearance) and touring (thicker tubing, braze-ons) capabilities. i would venture to say that it isnt meant to be a tradi

[RBW] Re: Protovelo questions

thanks Liesl, you bring up and answer a lot of decal questions/issues that i hadnt even thought about. i doubt it'll be resold, but that is a super valid point should it come to that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To uns

[RBW] Re: Someone buy one of those long bikes!

i think a lot of these are gone. i know the 46cm is, because i bought it. if you try to buy, it says that it is sold out, but the page still remains -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec

[RBW] Protovelo questions

so, i purchased the little green Clem Smith Jr prototype for my fiance (right as i was halfway through building up a 1990 trek 520 for her. will be selling it, if anyone is interested). i, for one, am very happy that there is a budget model available, as dropping 3k on another riv bike wasnt

[RBW] Re: Noodle to Albatross Conversion - Final Questions

yeah, i have both the steel and aluminum albatross bars. aside from minor weight gain, they are nearly identical and lovely. for around town and almost anything else, the steel will be plenty strong. i also have the shimano mtb levers on 3 bikes with upright bars. zero complaints you can a

[RBW] Re: Someone is going to get a big old deal.

edwin, that would've been a great reason. this evening will tell if my fiance takes this as "god, another bike in our place" or "IM SO EXCITED." if it's the former, ill let you know On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: > > Just too much overlap with my Sam. > http

[RBW] Re: Someone is going to get a big old deal.

well... i just bought the little 46cm one. wasn't expecting to buy a bike today. On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 12:53:14 PM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: > > Just too much overlap with my Sam. > http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-122.htm > > Whew, hard to not pull the trigger. > > Back to work, hea

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

well said jim. i think a rational skeptic's eye put to either side shows that a lot of the gear and the clothes and the style is more about taste than black and white better or worse. i definitely wont wear lycra for a host of reasons, but i also sometimes roll my eyes at seersucker knickers or

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

the angles make sense. i did a bit of digging and the hillborne and atlantis have the same tube dimensions, or at least that was true in 2010. i didnt think the sams were quite that stout, but that's cool. still curious about the hunq tubing. ive heard ox and kaisei. kaisei was named in the ve

[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question

curiosity got the best of me and i had it taken out/replaced (with a lovely phil bb purchased from this group). most of your analysis' were right on the money. some uncleanliness, slightly imperfect fit, possibly unchased shell etc made the initial install hard, but all is well and the threads

[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question

thanks all for the one-way-or-another reassuring thoughts, experiences and ideas. i agree that the better shop may not be as prepared to do a creative workaround as i want. if it comes to that point, ill have to find a place that knows all the tricks you guys know. joe, im holding out that m

[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question

pb, yeah you're hitting on what i was just wondering about myself. the frame was new, but not straight from the factory. it had been at rivendell for a while. the riv bb install video says that they face+chase before sending out, but that video is from 2010, so i dont know if it still applies...

[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question

> > honestly, i doubt i kept a receipt for the work that was done. i figured > that they must install bottom brackets multiple times a day, and everything > was normal. the whole install took 10 minutes. it would be hard to prove > and i can't imagine them willingly admitting to it. > it se

[RBW] bb/thread installation question

preface: im not much of a mechanic. i can install and adjust most allen wrenchy components, but beyond that, i go to a bike shop. so, i got my hunqapillar frame a few months ago and i got a standard issue shimano bb to have installed. took it to a local used bike shop and had the guys put it i

[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.

i think 54 would be too small. i am 5'9-5'10 with 86 pbh and i have a lot of stand over clearance on my 54cm. agree with patrick though. brian at riv will tell you exactly what you need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

i believe that's the same info that was floating around in the back of my head as well, Mike. but now im wondering if i gained it from a reputable source. pretty sure about the kaisei heat treated part. not so sure about the specs. and hunqapillars moved to waterford a while back. i guess it d

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

i guess what im wondering is, if the hilsen has proprietary tubes, the atlantis has thick yet standard dbl butted tubes and the hunq has straight gauge, why are they all roughly the same price? obviously, tubing is far from the most expensive part of building a bike, but i assume that the labor

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

really? straight gauge? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to r

[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

as a hunq owner, ive wondered this from the opposite (yet 100% satisfied) side. my impression is that there are a couple geometry tweaks and slightly thicker tubing? ive also wondered what makes the atlantis frames slightly more expensive. -- You received this message because you are subscr

[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories

:31:35 AM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable > bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike > already, so this will be a less used, but sturdier travel bike that can be > a little r

[RBW] Re: WTB various parts/accessories

you guys are the best. i think im all set up. On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:31:35 AM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable > bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike > already,

[RBW] WTB various parts/accessories

catching up from a previous post. im putting together a touring capable bike for the gf. in no rush, but on a budget. she has a nice looking bike already, so this will be a less used, but sturdier travel bike that can be a little rough around the edges. used for s240 camping trips mostly. look

[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer

thanks mike, that specific info helps a ton. straight gauge tubing is something id definitely like to steer clear of. im in los angeles, so i dont think i can take that off your hands, but i appreciate the offer. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:08:11 PM UTC-8, velomann wrote: > > > I have one

[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer

e has something they know nothing about. i'd like to stick with a brand i know (miyata, trek, bridgestone, specialized). On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:14:24 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing > int

[RBW] Re: MB2 as budget tourer

ah yes, good point. i am familiar with those early 80's mtb angles and havent ever really found them to be a problem, but youre right to point out a newish rider might not feel the same. On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 12:14:24 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > so now that i have

[RBW] MB2 as budget tourer

so now that i have been doing longer/overnight rides, my fiance is showing interest in joining me. she is a great camper already, though slow to warm to bicycles. id like to start setting up a reasonably capable and attractive (touring) bike for her, but i dont want to go too far into the mone

[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

i have 700x50 big apples on dyad rims. i think the dyad and aeroheat are the same width. no problems with the tires yet, and they are riv approved. that being said, the chart on sheldon brown seems to indicate that they are too large for the dyad rim width. the chart on the schwalbe site says it

[RBW] Re: FS: tektro CR720 cantis, Stainless Front Rack, SR Sakae Randnner handlebars

handlebars are gone. brakes and rack are still here On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 at 7:30:21 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > > *-Tektro CR720 cantilevers. - * 40$ shipped > 2 pairs (bike's worth) basically brand new. maybe 25 miles on them. silver > finish > > *-

[RBW] FS: tektro CR720 cantis, Stainless Front Rack, SR Sakae Randnner handlebars

*-Tektro CR720 cantilevers. - * 40$ shipped 2 pairs (bike's worth) basically brand new. maybe 25 miles on them. silver finish *-LKLM stainless steel front rack-* 85$ shipped impulsively pulled the trigger on this front rack from chinese touring brand lklm. someone on crazyguyonabike was impre

[RBW] Re: Paul Jono Hub?

yeah, this is really interesting. i dont need a wheel built or anything, but this hub seems like something nice to have around in case. i dont know anything about this sort of adjustable axle. can anyone testify to potential downsides of this design? On Wednesday, January 7, 2015 4:23:26 AM

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: O'Neill Park in Orange County California

awesome! i never considered orange county as a camping possibility. might have to make the trip down from la. looks beautiful. On Monday, January 5, 2015 1:34:13 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: > > Hi, > > Went for my first overnight of 2015 last weekend. > > Took the train from downtown San Diego to I

[RBW] Re: city hunqapillar/first real ride

those are 50 big apples. had them around for another project and put them on until i could work up the money and research for something else, but im liking them a lot so far. On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:10:36 PM UTC-8, DS wrote: > > Nice! What tires are you using? -- You received this mes

[RBW] Re: city hunqapillar/first real ride

sheesh, beautiful bike, Shoji. looks like a workhorse. bob, youre right about the racks, i had a pizza on the front by the end of the trip... and they look good too. On Monday, December 29, 2014 5:23:12 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote: > > got tired of waiting for upcoming trips and deci

[RBW] Re: Double Tube Raleigh

that thing looks crazy. id like to get a closer look. interesting find. On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 3:18:41 PM UTC-8, David Hays wrote: > > Anyone ever see one of these before? > http://buffalo.craigslist.org/bik/4817696502.html > David > -- You received this message because you are subscribe

[RBW] Re: shimano cx-70 canti question

alternative to what we are trying to do... but then there is the back wheel too... garth, i have them on a hunqapillar. your points are well taken and get to the science of what i was trying to understand. that makes a lot of sense. On Friday, December 19, 2014 6:33:17 PM UTC-8, drew beckmeyer wrote

[RBW] shimano cx-70 canti question

ok, i feel like this is going to end with me missing something obvious. i just got the cx-70 brakes to avoid having to deflate/squeeze my 700x50 tires everytime i want to take the wheels off. im not so new to cantilever brakes but somewhat new to big tires that prevent easy on and off. riv's s

[RBW] Re: Nitto big front rack q / hello

Haha yeah, the idea of having 2 sets of braze ons that close and neither of them being all that useable is quite frustrating. I probably need to just stop fighting it and resign myself to the p-clamps Though that chainring hack looks pretty good. -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Nitto big front rack q / hello

Hey, I'm new here, but this group has already been a great resource. I've been building up my new hunqapillar, and have come to front rack attachment. I've seen posts where the big front rack has been attached without p-clamps. For some reason, those methods didn't really work for me. I ended up