well, i think there should be a noted difference between "slow" and "fun/lively/nimble/comfortable". i consider my hunqapillar to be fun/lively/comfortable, but it is also slower than most modern road/mountain bikes. knew it going in, love the bike for it. a lot of it is the way i have it set up, and the clem sort of necessitates a cruisery set up, while the hunq can be made more aero, at least. thick tubes, long chainstays, very upright riding position, fat fat tires.... there is a reason go-fast bikes dont come like this. there is a reason the faster riv bikes dont come like this. i dont think any one of these aspects inherently makes a bike slower, but all together.... i think, all im trying to say, and the other people who have ridden clems are saying is that it is not a go fast bike. i dont think it was intended to be a bike built to be fast. i dont think anyone at rivendell said that it would be. it excels at what it is said to excel at, and it is lovely and fun to ride. handles loads, works well on dirt/gravel (havent actually taken it on any legitimate mtb rides yet), stable, super comfortable, good looking etc. i think pretending it is gonna be a zippy road bike is not accurate.
ive said this a few times in other threads, because we have one and ride it, and each time it is met with a sort of "how dare you say it is slow". maybe i should say "not as fast", but slow is not objectively good or bad, especially from a brand with "un-racer" as it's motto. when asked for a comparison, based on my experience, the clem is not as fast as the other rivendell bikes ive ridden, but it does everything else great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
