Huh, mine is 57.5. Yours (Dorothy) is halfway between mine and the new posted
number. Weird!
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here is a day in the life vid shot onboard my clem L
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2LYQMQlCdZ/
On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 4:43:56 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> I have wanted to start this thread for weeks. Fearing controversy, not
> desiring to start fights, and worried that st
Yes! Those are the ones.
I’m looking for (2)
Jeff
> On Jan 6, 2020, at 9:28 PM, David Carner wrote:
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> On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 8:22:57 PM UTC-6, Jeffrey B wrote:
>> Still looking, anything out there? Thanks!
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Are these the size you need? If so, how many?
> David
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> -
Not designed for it, but I for one (and others I know of) have run 650b on 26”
frames with no real problems, other than higher bb/slightly reduced tire
clearance. Even the cheapest Shimano b brakes have plenty of vertical
adjustment to make such a thing happen. So, not “authorised” but likely
p
Jeff,
I posted the picture above. Based on listing at Rivbike , I think these are the
huge. I have several. I’m not trying to cut anyone out of sale, but I would be
happy to mail 2 or 3 to you at no cost to you. I am just up the road at 39601.
You may PM me if interested.
david(dot)carner49(at)g
Likely have some kicking around too. What forkleg circumference are they to
clamp around?
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA
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ETT on the 2019 45cm Clem L, measured from center of seat lug to just under the
cream accent on the top of the head tube looks to be 60.5 cm
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And also to be fair, I don't think it would be too common that someone
would buy two Clem Ls for themselves (and in fact of course neither did
you.) My point is, the comparison between the two would have been mostly on
paper for most riders. The fact that the design was changed over that
timefr
I really like this story, but for the forced beausage. Scraping off paint? That
hurt to read. Anyway, I love that you love your Chev and it is so good to know
that you find it the ultimate comfortable commuter. That’s the sweet spot for a
bike for me.
Do you happen to know how long your 60 Che
I don't think this is necessarily subjective. Comparing a Hillibike, aka
Clem Smith Jr., which the designer specifically and categorically states is
based on a 1980s vintage mountain bike, to a Boulder or a Hampsten,
certainly they will be different. If you have both bicycles, and you choose
to
Still looking, anything out there? Thanks!
Jeff
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Gorgeous scorcher!
- Max “North Road Bars Are Cool” in A2
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I have a 60 Cheviot and a 61 Roadini. I live in a walkup in NYC and have a
Volvo station wagon with a roof rack.
Because bringing it inside and up the stairs is impossible to do pleasantly
because of the size, I keep the Cheviot outside on a sign post. It's not
ideal, and I've had to strip t
Fell off me kneeler laughing! (Seriously, I use a coffee table height desk
with a kneeler ... a bit like a funicular, nothing like a BMW M3.) Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 5:29:13 PM UTC-7, LBleriot wrote:
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> Let me rephrase. I wouldn't climb any alpine pass unless
Nope. That's a 26-inch wheeler.
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Even though I haven't ridden any 50+ cm chainstay Rivs, I am pretty
confident that I would side with those who prefer the shorter stays: I
like to ride spirited, I don't mind getting a little out of control in the
name of fun, and I would happily trade off some stability to get these
things.
You’ve got eagle eyes, Tom! Yes, that is an older photo of the bike - note the
brown saddle and lack of fabulous wavy fenders.
I have a 50 on there presently.
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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 4:57 PM, tom coppedge wrote:
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> Leah, I thought you got a shorter reach stem than what you
Joe and Eric—
I’m not discounting tire/wheel size. Since I’ve had the Sam for years, and
am still setting up the Homer, I tried to control for a few things. Both
have the same Serfas 921V seats. Both had the same tires for these
particular rides: 37mm Continental Tour Rides. Today I set bot
Some *subjective *counterpoints.
Owned an MIT Atlantis, Cheviot and still own a Clem H.
All of the above bikes would be my last choice for "spirited" unloaded
climbing when choosing from my stable.
My Boulder, Black Mountain Cyles, Hampsten, and Jones all climb with less
perceived exertion on
Let me rephrase. I wouldn't climb any alpine pass unless it's in a
funicular or a BMW M3.
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 4:18:28 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> LBleriot said of long chain stay bikes: "I wouldn't climb any alpine
> passes on these bikes."
>
> Based on what? I've climbed (and
This is a great thread and should serve as a helpful source for people
considering various Rivendell models. It makes it more helpful, IMO, when
people chiming in described how they use their bikes. For example, people
who put their bikes on bus racks, or regularly have to carry them up stairs
Hi BBDD! I have a horse in this race (2019 Clem L) but it's not saddled
up--in fact the wheels aren't yet built. When that blessed event takes
place, I will be able to compare it to the memory of my OC (Original
Clementine.)
I have to say I am still unsure as to what is making you unhappy about
Thanks for the input everyone!
Last question about the Clem. Can I run 650b/27.5 on the 45cm? I already
have a bunch of tires and 27.5 is kind of a sweet spot for me. I assume
even with 27.5s, I’d have clearance for a 2.0 mob tire.
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 9:30 PM Jason Fuller wrote:
> John_C -
That’s a beaut of a Riv in the park!
Here’s a roadini on the wall in my house (just put up this wall hanger and I
like it!)
More action pics, but I just took this one!
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> On Jan 6, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Adam Leibow wrote:
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> hubbuhubbuh in golden gate park!
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>
>
I'm sorry, Tim, I've never used the ketone test strips.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 3:26:54 PM UTC-7, Tim Tetrault wrote:
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> Cyclofiend Jim- feel free to delete is this is wy to far off topic for
> this crew, I'm just not sure where else to point this.
>
> RBW Keto p
By coincidence, Jan Heine talks about 700c vs 650b wheel sizes in today’s
article on his Rene Herse blog:
https://www.renehersecycles.com/blog/?utm_source=Retail+Customer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ff743aa9f0-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_11_29_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f74fbd5ca8-ff743aa9f0-8027662
Aeroperf, another consideration in the way your bikes feel is the 700c wheels
on your Sam. It seems counterintuitive that the bigger wheel with same-size
tires would feel nimbler, but I wouldn't discount it.
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My windy day Riv has a motor 😋
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Cyclofiend Jim- feel free to delete is this is wy to far off topic for
this crew, I'm just not sure where else to point this.
RBW Keto people (Deacon Patrick?)- do you all recall the site that Grant
Petersen uses to obtain ketone blood test strips from Canada for much
cheaper than US pricin
Thanks again for the topic.
It’s 60 degrees, sunny, no wind in Atlanta, so it got me to pump up the
tires on both the Sam and Homer and go out and do 9 miles with each. Just
ride.
And it is still a toss-up. I feel more comfortable on the Sam, but I’ve
been riding it for 5 years. The Homer is
LBleriot said of long chain stay bikes: "I wouldn't climb any alpine passes
on these bikes."
Based on what? I've climbed (and descended) countless alpine passes, roads
and technical trails, with mine and it climbs and descends brilliantly.
With abandon,
Patrick
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I am a convert, sort of. When I first laid eyes on the MIT Atlantis, I
recoiled in horror. I didn't know what to make of the long chainstays and
the ever more sloping top tubes. Now, having purchased a Clem H and MIT
Atlantis I do see benefits, but as everyone is pointing out, there are some
This is so helpful and so interesting. You are taller than me by half an inch,
and you have the 45, which I would never have considered my size. I need to go
re-measure my PBH if yours is only 81...
It’s good for everyone to know that lengthened 45 still fits on public trans -
thanks for that!
John, I do still have the Betty Foy. I did love it, and I still do, but Grant
was right to change that bike in the current iteration of the Cheviots. The
Cheviot is better named, takes a fatter tire, and has not-overly long
chainstays. The Clementine is such a sweet ride that the Betty, lovely a
Thanks for this topic. It explains a few things.
I rode a Diamondback Approach for 18 years, including when I used to live
in Germany and would throw it on the Bahn.
It had straight bars, 3x7 speed grip shifts, and brakes big enough for
622x42 tires. But eventually things were falling apart.
I
This is an interesting discussion, and the topic is hardly inflammatory.
Leah's concerns are real ones -- the incident described below shows that.
I myself have no interest in chainstays longer than about 45 cm, though
I've not ridden a bike with longer ones, unless Indian Heros and Raleigh
Sports
I have some bikes with virtually 0" standover which I ride fairly
aggressively offroad. In my experience if you bail on a trail you do not
sit down on the top tube with your legs perfectly extended downwards,
rather throw the bike down sideways and dip off to the side in 99/100
cases. I had a 5
Well, Leah I am glad you broached the subject not me! When I've mentioned it in
the past it's been treated as some sort of sacrilege.
Having a long wheelbase whether it be a longer top tube, longer chainstays, or
both. Does get you some good things. Increased tire, fender, mud clearance.
Decre
Whew, my procrastination saved my bike budget!
Eric
On Monday, January 6, 2020, Jeffrey B wrote:
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I will let you know the ETT on the 45 Clem when I get home - I rode my windy
day bike - the Appaloosa - today
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I agree Joe. I may have just been lucky. I would NOT have bought it if I
had to put it on a train or a bus.
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 10:26:39 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> "The problem is that we cyclists have a hard time wrapping our heads
> around change."
>
> The problem - such as it
Sold
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"The problem is that we cyclists have a hard time wrapping our heads around
change."
The problem - such as it is - is these longbikes may be just fine as bicycles
to ride (I like them), but are more of a struggle to transport on/in cars or
buses, carry on stairs and store at home.
This is the
Long chain-chain stays allow you to differentiate yourself in a crowded
market place. "Better" is always a relative term and for the type of riding
I do, commuting, fun rides, the occasional brevet or loosely organized
rides with friends, my 2013 AHH does an outstanding job at all of those
thin
I have a 53 MIT Atlantis and it is the most comfortable bike I have owned.
The problem is that we cyclists have a hard time wrapping our heads around
change.
On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 7:44:51 AM UTC-5, scott minor wrote:
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> Great topic! As a tall guy with a 95cm PBH, I LOVE the new found c
Jason,
great bike. LOVE the pink highlight!
Rob
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Great topic! As a tall guy with a 95cm PBH, I LOVE the new found comfort of
riding a longer bike. Finally, there are a few bikes that are tall enough for
me, and proportionally not too steep or too short feeling. My first
experience with longer chainstays was with a 60cm Cheviot that I origi
Dorothy, what's the effective toptube length of your 45 L? That's a straight
line measured from seatpost to headtube at the middle of each tube.
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My son has the 52 2019 Clem L, and I later that year built up a 45cm Clem L
frame for myself. We both have 81cm pbh, so could ride either size. I got the
45 because they sold out of the 52. They both ride great, but his is a
challenge to carry up the concrete outdoor stairs to his apartment - wa
Check out Bike Insights website. You can compare how geometry changes based on
tire and wheel size. Gives you trail numbers and bb height and lots more. Super
helpful for nerding out!
https://bikeinsights.com/compare
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