Even though I haven't ridden any 50+ cm chainstay Rivs, I am pretty confident that I would side with those who prefer the shorter stays: I like to ride spirited, I don't mind getting a little out of control in the name of fun, and I would happily trade off some stability to get these things. It's certainly a personal choice, where along the stability / agility compromise you want to land. I also recognize that Grant's knowledge of how all the geometry numbers intermingle is superior to mine and that not all bikes with long stays will ride the same.
This is why I grabbed a Hillborne while I still could, because the medium-long stays are probably the longest I'm ever going to want for my weekend play bike, regardless of the benefits of the new long-stay bikes. I really hope that Grant brings back some new sporty options beyond the current road models, something with higher volume 650b (or even 26") with Riv-sporty geometry like old models like Saluki, Bleriot, etc. I am sure he can put a new twist on these types of bikes without detriment to their sportiness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e429d8d0-c704-4f5d-9d15-689e20648ca3%40googlegroups.com.