Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Well I'm not leaving the list. I feel strongly about my position, I just think it was placed in the wrong forum. "White knighting" is the same bollocks as "virtue signaling"..it places the blame on the person who objects to something happening that was wrong. I'm not going to play that game. I s

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I think “I should’ve DM’d that guy” is the wrong moral to draw from this story. There was some hilariously inappropriate white knight shit going down across the board, and if that came at me offline, I would post it all publicly and leave the list. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Also, I don't think Chris is a bad guy, I just think he had a thought in the middle of a busy day that maybe needed more editing before Send. I've done it a hundred times so I get it. Internet is an absurdly fast way to express a thought, and sometimes it bites us in the ass. Been there. -- Y

[RBW] Re: It looked like just a little stick...

Bleriot or Rambouillet blue with cream head tube and windows. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Yes, I agree I should have gone after this offline. I apologise to everyone for doing it here, and for my language. My presentation is that one should accept when they've screwed up and make amends for it without qualifiers. I screwed up by persuing the argument publicly. That's on me. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I both love and hate all of you now. Velouria doesn’t read this list, and none of us deserve an apology on her behalf. Canti-Sams are not my favorite, but I sure wish the new Frank Jones Sr. singlespeeds came in 60, 62, 64 sizes. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because y

Re: [RBW] Chain width

Yep, the 8-speed fits perfect. Which kinda works out 'cause Will cut me a 9-speed chain at RBW to fit a triple-derailers Cheviot, which I would have had to shorten for the 2-speed. So now I can run this and save the other chain for if I get old and tired and decide to use gears again. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

In hindsight I propose that others consider attacking or or questioning each other in PM’s. Regarding Canti Sams is there any talk of a 66cm + version for us 100PBH individuals? Or does that shift me back to the AHH vs Sam post. Love this List just not the occasional squabbling over perception

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Canti-Sams are awesome! Great point! On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 4:24:49 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > > So, uh, how 'bout those new canti Sams, guys? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Hunq with rack and v brakes?

I wanted to update this in case other folks read this wondering if V-brakes will fit their hunq. I installed the XTR M951 V-brakes on my Hunq with Haulin Collin rack and they fit great. They, unfortunately, were worn out (lots of slop in the pivots) and squealed like a banshee no matter what I

[RBW] Re: FS: Albastache, Nitto, Brooks, B+M, Sugino, MKS, Tektro, tubes, tires, etc.

Cockpit is sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owner

Re: [RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

I have some Red Wing Heritage (model 2955) boots with Black “Spitfire” leather. Sort of a rough out leather that’s not sueded. I’m thinking of hitting them with a coat of Obenauf’s before/as the rain finally comes to the Bay Area. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: It looked like just a little stick...

On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 6:15:57 PM UTC-8, RichS wrote: > > > I’ll be curious to know if the repair will require bending the hanger back > to it’s original position or the more invasive option of replacing the > hanger with a new one. > > I took the frame to RBW today. They think it can be

Re: [RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

it does darken brown shoes considerably. no matter what brown you started with, after a while all your brown shoes are the same dark brown. the shade of polish doesnt matter much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscri

Re: [RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

It is importand to saddlesoap the leather first. otherwise the oil carries grit into the leather and it acts like an abrasive. that at least is the theory. i always do a three step of Murpheys, obenaufs and a good cream polish. this is a shoe routine but i do boots the same way. -- You receive

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I'm sorry, it just bothers me that we were celebrating Velouria's return and it turned into this ridiculous crap. Now I've got this guy on PM calling me "a sad little man", which is just perfect. Yeah, I'm sad that Velouria might search her blog name and find that some guy was put out because sh

[RBW] It looked like just a little stick...

Jim, That’s unfortunate about your derailer hanger. Amazing the trouble a stick can cause! I’ll be curious to know if the repair will require bending the hanger back to it’s original position or the more invasive option of replacing the hanger with a new one. Keep us posted on developments an

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Agreed. My brother died suddenly six years ago. I had some people respond similarly to Christopher when I wasn’t able to complete some reviews on the website I wrote for at the time. They subsequently were reprimanded by their bosses and blackballed by some news sites for their behavior (not at

[RBW] Re: FS: Albastache, Nitto, Brooks, B+M, Sugino, MKS, Tektro, tubes, tires, etc.

Final bump. Make me an offer. Gotta make room. HT albastache bars/ 8cm nitto dirt drop stem/ TRP RRL brake levers/ Shimano ultegra bar end shifters- all around very very good condition. newbaums wrapped and shellacked with gray jagwire housing. small cut in one of the hoods. 200$ shipped. -B

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I'm sick of this stupid new world we live in where truth is whatever we say it is, and a thoughtless comment is just another POV. Sorry, sometimes saying the wrong thing is just wrong. Two years ago my friend - only 38-years-old - was diagnosed with Stage 3B colon cancer. She immediately went

[RBW] Lyli Herse, 1928 - 2018

We had planned to celebrate Lyli Herse's 90th birthday today, but instead, we have to announce the passing of the 8-times French champion and daughter of the famous builder René Herse. But we'll celebrate her anyhow, because she continues to inspire us! https://janheine.wordpress.com/2018/01/05

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

So, uh, how 'bout those new canti Sams, guys? On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 6:40:25 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I have manfully resisted comment here, but I will add my agreement to > Mark's, with the further addition that perhaps Christopher might have > considered that LB could indeed

Re: [RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I have manfully resisted comment here, but I will add my agreement to Mark's, with the further addition that perhaps Christopher might have considered that LB could indeed have undergone something traumatic enough to put her off this particular blog in a very sudden manner. But yes, I think that,

Re: [RBW] Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

That is interesting. I am about to, or pondering being about to (and wincing at the infelicitous syntax of that last clause) swap out 51 mm F Freds for labeled 2.35 Big Ones on the Matthews; which is somewhat problematical 'cause you can't just swap 'em out when they're all tubeless as you can when

Re: [RBW] Chain width

I shall purchase this strange implement, then go on a measuring spree. Watch for me on the news! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-

[RBW] Re: Bike Trainer Thoughts

Trainer thoughts. I use mine year round. For me, the ability to perform specific intervals at prescribed HR or power works great when building and maintaining fitness. I moved to a full on smart trainer last year (Kickr Snap) from a good but basic fluid trainer (Kinetic RR). Using the Snap and

[RBW] WTB: Ocean Air Cycles Docena Bag (Mk I)

[cross post from iBOB] Looking for an Ocean Air Cycles Docena bag in the original production (Mk I) configuration: https://store.oceanaircycles.com/products/docena-demi-porteur-bag I will consider any condition, and in fact, the beat-er, the better-er, as I'm not actually sure this bag will wo

Re: [RBW] Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

Patrick, I didn’t switch back and forth on the Hunqapillar much, but I noticed the improvement switching from 2.1” to 44 Snowqualmie, then degradation of handling when I shifted back again. Keep in mind I’m a canary in the coalmine when it comes to things like this. Having a wimpy brain means I

Re: [RBW] Chain width

You’re conclution is correct, Joe. There is a difference. I needed a 9 speed chain for my Hunqapillar (pre-fixed, when it has a 9 speed cassette) and an 8 speed chain for the DOS Eno freewheel on my Quickbeam. Now, the Quickbeam’s dingle cog requires 9 speed chain, but the chain line is good eno

Re: [RBW] Chain width

Having confirmed that you don't have the tools to do this measurement, I recommend you treat yourself to a very very cheap vernier caliper. One like this would be just fine: Link to Ace Hardware Cheapo Caliper

[RBW] WTB - IRD Stem shifter mount

Riv is out of stock. Anyone have one they tried and didn't like, or didn't get around to installing? Thanks. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I specifically got into moralizing and passing judgment. I stand by it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googleg

Re: [RBW] Chain width

Correct! Asking for measurements I can get with my own tool would possibly be insane, my good man. But I think I've solved the problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving email

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

I see nothing malicious or offensive in this post, just an opinion about what he would have preferred. In brief: Glad she is doing well. Don't think it was right to stop the blog with no explanation. Free to do what she wants, but appears she could have told us something, since she was in fact

Re: [RBW] Chain width

*"One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions"* -Admiral Grace Hopper I'm going to guess you don't have the tool to measure the physical width of your cog or the inside width of your chain. Is that a fair guess? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 12:39:

Re: [RBW] Chain width

Update, I'm an idiot. I have a Bike Friday right here in front of me that I forgot is 8-speed (I just got it). Comparing the chains, the 8 is infinitesimally wider than 9, but enough to make a difference. Solved! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Gravel and Grind in Frederick MD is closing

They are an awesome shop with super nice and knowledgeable employees. I went there four times from Dec 2016 to Aug 2017--to see what a Rivendell bikes was about, to buy a bike (ended up with Joe A.), to get accessories added to Joe, and once for a G&G sponsored ride, where I got to meet some

Re: [RBW] Chain width

Odd. I'm sure you know that 3/32 cogs work with 1/8 chains, but not vicy versa. I'd say that your cog is wider than 3/32. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > The packaging says compatible with 1/8" and 3/32". I'm not getting > anywhere with my question about width no matter how

Re: [RBW] Chain width

The packaging says compatible with 1/8" and 3/32". I'm not getting anywhere with my question about width no matter how much I Google, so I'm just going to buy an 8-speed chain and hope for the best. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

Oh, and I never ever ever *ever* got pinch flats with 22s at 80/90 psi even on the Fairground pavement. Pinch flats are more a matter of how your ride. 38s are pretty damned thick compared to a lot of load carrying tires! Well, I did get a pinch flat on those 22 mm Turbos, when I deliberately rode

Re: [RBW] Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

Patrick: How exactly does the Hunq handle with 50+s, with 44s, and with 38s? Ie, what improves with the narrower tires? 38s ought to handle 250 lb pretty darned well. I used to carry my 175 lb self and 35 lb rear loads on 22 mm actual tires, on sometimes roughish pavement, with no problems to the

Re: [RBW] Chain width

IME, which is considerable with 9 speed chains, good quality 3/32 cogs, fixed or free, work fine with 9 speed chains My much less extensive but still real experience with 10 speed chains says that such cogs will even work with 10 speed chains. So, question: are you sure your cog is not 1/8? On Fri

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Dude, you gave the woman shit for not updating you appropriately, using words like "it's not right" and "unnecessary", and you still haven't apologized for it. We've gotten a bunch of claptrap about "I was busy" and "sorry it was taken that way", which is not how apologies work. I've said stuff

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

It is absurd to say or imply that I don’t get it, I am lying, I lack compassion and/ or empathy, that my worry was less than genuine, I am the problem and possibly the reason she walked away from her blog. You know nothing about me. Nothing. That you can’t understand how a post could say somethi

[RBW] FS Baggins Handlebar bag. Choose my adventure. Buy my handlebar bag OR make me buy a rack.

If you are like me, you believe that any bike can be made better with a handlebar bag. If you are like me, you don't think a bike's handling is ruined when you carry a few pounds in a handlebar bag. If you have a stripped down road bike, it might be a touch difficult to mount a proper front ra

[RBW] Re: Four Senor Frank Jones left...

That 57 is still sitting there specifically so that Patrick Moore, who's been saying for ages that he'd like to get a more road-ish Rivendell singlespeed, has had every possible opportunity to pull the trigger. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 7:50:37 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Jim, there are quite a few photos of Dunlap tire ads in the outback in > that era. I’m reading “Bicycles in the Bush” I've read "Lost Cyclist" but hadn't seen Bush. Thanks for pointing that one out. I guess the revolu

[RBW] Re: Bikepacking with 38mm knobbies (Compass Steilacooms)

Thanks, Phil. I need a new rear wheel for the 135 spacing fixed/fixed Phil KissOff hub. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Gravel and Grind in Frederick MD is closing

https://gravelandgrind.com/gravel-grind-movin/ Good coffee and a great bike shop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr

[RBW] Re: fs: Brooks B17 Imperial + Nitto Noodles 46cm + Grand Cru seatpost + Dimension stem

Brooks is SOLD!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-ow

Re: [RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

I did similar, setting them near a heat source to improve absorption and also repeating application until it would absorb no more. I found that if you get really good absorption, some of that will later be squeezed out of the leather by flexing resulting in an increase of wax showing on the surfac

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

I agree that Obenauf's works great on hiking boots and the like. On my regular shoes, however, it proved to be a little trickier. Because of the seams on the shoes, it was difficult to wipe off all of the residue that wasn't fully absorbed by the leather. Though the shoes didn't feel sticky, th

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

Mark uses Obenaufs on his work boots. I'm retired so my work boots just sit these days, but did you know that Obenaufs makes the VERY BEST boot laces I've ever had in my life. I wear Red Wing 877s (they used to be called Irish Setters) and of course the laces they come with break within a few we

[RBW] Chain width

So I'm trying to piece together my 2-speed Cheviot and I've run into a problem. I'm using a Sugino double-plus-guard and a singlespeed cog on the rear, which is advertised as compatible with 3/32" chains. I bought a 9-speed chain with the thinking that I can convert to a 9-speed derailer drivetr

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Honestly, the comments on this post are probably a perfect example of the type of behavior that prompted her to just walk away/ take a break. As a regular visitor to her blog I have a fair idea of possible things that were going on with her, my only concern with the abruptness of the posts stop

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

I use Obenauf's on my work boots, too. Put some on my locally made leather wallet, too. I would stick to a good shoe polish for dress shoes, though. The polish will protect against a stroll in the rain down a city sidewalk. Anything more and you might want to get a pair of galoshes. Good gosh, a

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Christopher Murray wrote:* I did mean that it would have been nice to post something in May or June or whenever just saying she was taking a break. * It may seem weird, but even looking at or thinking about something, never mind taking the energy to write even a short post, can be impossible und

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

Yep. Way better than mink oil. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send em

[RBW] Obenauf's on shoes?

It’s not a polish, which “lives” on top of the leather and gets buffed. It is an oil/wax, which goes into the leather to condition and soften it, as well as leave the wax on the surface to protect against both wet and dry. It is not a one-time application, but one that should be renewed as neede

[RBW] Re: Obenauf's on shoes?

I use it on my Redwing work boots. Works great. I am not sure what the outcome would be on dress shoes. If they are lighter in color I imagine the would darken considerably. On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 9:57:00 AM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote: > > Does it make leather dress shoes look nice or is i

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

It's quite clear that something severe happened to the young lady last year,vand whatever that thing was has created a life change she is still coping with (see: "I ride for sport when weather and health permit"). She owes us no explanations. -- You received this message because you are subsc

[RBW] Obenauf's on shoes?

Does it make leather dress shoes look nice or is it a more utilitarian finish to it? Interested because it is a one time application for weatherproofing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and st

[RBW] Re: FS: Atlantis 64, double top tube

Still available. Pics can be found here https://flic.kr/s/aHsmbV1hf1 Looking to move this, a bump and a drop to $1800. Any interest, shoot me a message. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from thi

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

Ha ha ha!! Living on two wheels by dennis coello -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to th

Re: [RBW] WTB bell spacer & WTT xt FD for cx70

That's the one. How much or us there any small stuff you need I could trade you? Fair winds, Captain Conway Bennett 239.877.4119 On Jan 5, 2018 8:21 AM, "'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch" < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Conway, I just put the Crane bell with the big spacer on my Hubbah

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Patrick well said, Ahem John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post t

[RBW] WTB bell spacer & WTT xt FD for cx70

Conway, I just put the Crane bell with the big spacer on my Hubbah Hubbah and put the inner shim in the drawer. If that’s the one you need it’s all yours. Send me your address and I’ll drop it in the mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse "went to go-fast 700c rando machines many years ago for a good reason"?

If I’m going to live on my bike, I’m going to to stay on the seat instead of the top tube, and sometime around mid to late October I will point the bike south and not stop until there’s no chance of ice anywhere but in my beach drink :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] WTB bell spacer & WTT xt FD for cx70

I'm looking to buy the 1/16" shim that comes with the headset spacer bell Riv sells. If you're running you're bell on a threadless I'll take it. I'm looking to trade a a deore xt front triple derailer Riv sells for a cx70 front double. Thanks in advance. Fair winds, Captain Conway Chicago -

Re: [RBW] Re: Bar wrap direction

Stem to end looks fine, and with some wrap materials probably is fine.  But my experience with leather and "cork" is that wrapped stem to end my hands peel back the edges of the wrapping between the hoods and the stem.  This might not happen with cloth, and certainly won't happen with shellacke

[RBW] Re: Bar wrap direction

i've done end to stem, but recently switched over from stem to end. it looks cleaner. On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:55:08 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: > > Back in the nearly forgotten days of my youth I recall wrapping bar tape > from the stem to towards the end, tucking a bit in the end and finishing

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Christopher, it takes guts to examine what you wrote with fresh eyes and then edit your misque to match your intent. Thank you. You may still be missing something, however minor. The noise of a busy life (I find “busy” always an indication I’m putting the wrong thing ahead of the right thing) ma

[RBW] Re: Lovely Bicycle

Hi Christopher- I’m glad to see your intent wasn’t to act as if you were owed something. That is heartening. However the impact and the affect was perceived as such. You have to reckon with that. It’s important to understand the difference and the ways in which our intent isn’t important when th