Re: [RBW] OAC Rambler Ride Report

Functionally I don't know, but hand made in Portland, OR vs. assembly line made in Taiwan, along with supporting an upstanding guy I like to ride bikes with are two huge plusses for me. On 12/17/13, Peter Morgano wrote: > Its a beautiful bike but aside from the special mounts for the pauls is it

Re: [RBW] OAC Rambler Ride Report

Its a beautiful bike but aside from the special mounts for the pauls is it really functionally different from the polyvalent MKII? http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/frames/polyvalent-mkii.html On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM, velomann wrote: > I'm the proud owner of a sunflower yellow 65

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

I've always loved the Atlantis, too, for entirely aesthetic reasons: I love the color, the name, and the headbadge. I've so far managed to avoid actually buying one - I've had an AHH, Saluki, Rambouillet, Romulus, and currently a Bleriot - but I suspect it's only a matter of time. This one is m

[RBW] OAC Rambler Ride Report

I'm the proud owner of a sunflower yellow 650b Rambler and I am absolutely thrilled with it. I only got it built up in October and have yet to get it out on a real "ramble", but my country-ish commute has me putting about 125 very enjoyable miles/ week on this bike, and my affection for it just

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

"Part of me feels like it's punishment for buying such an expensive bike in the first place" Owning/riding/buying a bicycle is one of the kindest things a human-being can do. For themself, for society and for so many good reasons. There is no punishment for having "such an expensive bicycle".

[RBW] WTB Shimano Bar end shifter; Front/left only

Hey group, wondering if anyone has a spare Shimano FRONT only bar end shifter laying around, 8/9 speed, doesnt matter. I want to try it in a Paul thumbie, and the Microshift that Riv sells isnt compatible, and the Silver shifter needs extra hardware. Thank you in advance!!-Mike --

Re: [RBW] Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

Yet another reason to start growing a beard! On 12/17/13, Doug Williams wrote: > I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged steel > maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York: > > Doug > > > *It has recently come to our attention that during last week

Re: [RBW] A moment of sadness

Sorry to read this, hope you this is just an exacerbation and it goes into remission soon! On 12/17/13, Philip Williamson wrote: > I'm sorry to hear that! As Patrick says, maybe you'll save someone's life on > the public transit... > Actually he never said that! :^) > > Get better! > > Philip > w

Re: [RBW] Re: what have you carried on your Rivendell?

Just got home with these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11429768503/ No problem what so ever! On 11/23/13, cyclotourist wrote: > Just got back from recycling two gallons of used motor oil... was not > a pleasant load to carry! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/11016886936

[RBW] A moment of sadness

I'm sorry to hear that! As Patrick says, maybe you'll save someone's life on the public transit... Actually he never said that! :^) Get better! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe fro

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Putting the 15th on my calendar! I live in the Loma linda / Redlandsish area so it would be perfect. Looking forward to the chance to meet and ride with some fellow Rivendell owners. And thank you all again for the helpful feedback. Sincerely, Richard On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:14:33 AM

[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:56:56 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote: > > I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged steel > maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York: > > Doug > > > *It has recently come to our attention that during last weekend’s

[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

Disks on roadbikes is going to be an awful fad. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:56:56 PM UTC-6, Doug Williams wrote: > > I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged steel > maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York: > > Doug > > > *It has recently com

[RBW] Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged steel maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York: Doug *It has recently come to our attention that during last weekend’s Cyclocross racing in the US, in sub freezing temperatures, several failures were re

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

That is sad & we all wish you the best. On a hopeful note, cycling is generally good for the knees as it promotes blood flow & lubrication as long as the loads are kept moderate. I have one abused knee that used to get stiff & sore, but after retirement and cycling nearly every day it hasn't

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

"Half good" ain't good enough for Rivendell (chuckle, grin). Don't need 'em right now but should probably pick up a set before prices head up (see earlier thread re: "what deals"). dougP On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:13:54 PM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote: > > > $1/tooth is brilliant. > > Yes

[RBW] Re: OAC Rambler Ride Report

Thanks for the write-up, thoughtful & well done. Rob had a trio of Ramblers at the recent steel bike show in Orange, CA, and they are quite nicely done. You can tell a lot of thought & experience went into their design. I'm enjoying my C-line tires from Ocean Air, and wish Rob all the best w

[RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

The Taylor Bros. were also highly influenced by the French Constructeur makers in their touring bike models. These influences included their proprietary racks, internal frame wiring for lights, Lefol aluminum fenders, low-trail design, etc. These aspects don't particularly appear in Grant Pet

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

This is the first fall/winter it's been this bad. This is a completely new experience for me. Any day that it's physically possible to be back on the bike, you can bet I will be. Thanks for the well wishes, Don. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:05:37 PM UTC-8, Don Compton wrote: > > Cecily > I

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

Though I'm not religious, I'm not one to turn down good thoughts/prayers. They're appreciated. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:58:42 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > I am so sorry, Cecily. If I may, you'll be in my prayers. In the meantime, > focus on the gifts rather than dwelling on the pa

[RBW] Re: Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

I've had Brooks tape on my Bob Brown custom bike since I received it in the Fall of 2007. It has held up very well. To the best of my recollection, I don't think I have ever done anything to treat it - though I may have smeared some Brooks Proofide on it at one time. I don't know if the qual

[RBW] OAC Rambler Ride Report

If this is to OT someone feel free to dump it... I finally got around to writing up my visit and ride the Ocean Air Cycle's Rambler. Really sweet bike with alot of soul in common with Rivendell bikes in my opinion. It was definitely a bike I was interested in, and any company with a motto of

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

> $1/tooth is brilliant. Yes indeed. And if these are even half good, a pretty decent price. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:23:52 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > $1/tooth is brilliant. > > On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:56:10 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: >> >> Reading between the lines it sound

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

Cecily I wish you the best. Hang in there. I suffer from osteoarthritis, neck and back, and cold weather is difficult. On the other hand, when the temps hover near 60 and above, I feel like a young kid again. Maybe during the Canadian winters you should consider alternatives, but don't give up t

[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

I am so sorry, Cecily. If I may, you'll be in my prayers. In the meantime, focus on the gifts rather than dwelling on the pain, there is, somehow, gift in everything. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:46:45 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: > > My osteoarthritis has become so b

[RBW] A moment of sadness

My osteoarthritis has become so bad in the last few weeks that it's nearly impossible to ride my Betty Foy. Even after a professional bike fitting, I simply don't have enough flexibility in the knee to make pedaling possible. Part of me feels like it's punishment for buying such an expensive bik

[RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

For those interested, Oscar Wastyn still has a shop in Chicago. I stopped in a couple years ago and took my camera along. Worth a visit if you're in the area. (I hope it's still there) FWIW, I would say the Taylor Bros. came as close to the RBW vibe as you can get. Rough stuff frames, racks, t

Re: [RBW] Re: What deals they were!

On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:27:27 PM UTC-5, Minh wrote: > > Well there have been some notable changes in manufacturing of those > frames, whereas the original Atlantis frames were made in Japan (when the > YEN exchange rate was much more favorable), now you get a frame made in the > US at W

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Richard: If you're in southern California, come out to one of our irregularly scheduled bike rides. Watch here for announcements on future rides. I think our next one is in Redlands on March 15. Some people even show up with non-Rivendell bikes but we're a tolerant bunch. Looks like the A

[RBW] Re: Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

Great point about multiple pieces stitched together, Michael. In that case, I would stretch each piece as if it were separate so the stitched area was not stressed, and same for that spot when wrapping, just pulling it taught without stretching that few inch area. With abandon, Patrick On Tues

[RBW] Re: Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

> > Whatever you do... > don't pull too hard on the split section of the tape or it will separate. Some of their lengths of tape are in two pieces. Yes...sadly...Brooks doesn't have all the lengths as one piece, which I think is unacceptable for the price they charge for them. If it does separ

[RBW] Re: Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

I use a lot of leather and care for it over the years, though I use cotton tape on my bars. In my experience, properly oiled leather grips everything better than dry leather, to itself, to steel, wood, hands, feet, whatever. So you idea to pre-oil is sound. If I were installing those on my bars

[RBW] Re: Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

> > Thought I read somewhere that Brooks says don't put anything on it. > Someone else here can chime in who knows for sure. I would think dressing it before putting it on would be a bad idea because you want the grip of the tape adhesive to be perfect on the handlebar. I would be afraid that

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

$1/tooth is brilliant. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:56:10 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: > > Reading between the lines it sounds like "let's have some fun with the > tooth counts". Like it says, what's a tooth here or there? With wide > range cassettes, you're always bound to find a gear somewhere

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Makes perfect sense, Richard. I fell in love with the Hunqapillar because an ogre like me really does need a mammoth to ride. And now that I ride mostly backcountry trails, I love the idea of a mammoth tromping and wending it's way through the pines much like a broad antlered elk or massive bea

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 02:04 PM, Matthew J wrote: That's the rub, I'ld say. Until 1970, when as Steve points out above Schwinn first started selling lugged Japanese made frames, a person looking to buy a practical bike that could handle commuting, touring, light camping and fun rides was probably going

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Thank you for the reassurance :). No, actually would'nt be my first Rivendell. I currently own a Simpleone and Sam H. I have always loved the Atlantis for some reason. Believe it has to do in some part with the lyrics for the Velvet Underground song Heroin... I wish that I was born a thousa

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 03:30 PM, Matthew J wrote: > By 1971 there was the P15, a (light) touring bike equipped with a Campagnolo triple crank. I ordered mine in July, 1971. Reckon that was quite a bike. It was. I rode mine for 20 years, until I got the Spectrum, at which point I discovered just ho

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Bruce will have all the necessary tools for fit. Unless they meet at a different location than his home. And Doug is correct there is overlap...I could fit on a 53 cm or a 56 cm but decided on the 56 cm as I have a 83.5 to 84 cm PBH Richard, been on the group for a bit over a year now and still w

Re: [RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Those cnc chain rings are hot, totally unnecessary but hot. On Dec 17, 2013 4:56 PM, "dougP" wrote: > Reading between the lines it sounds like "let's have some fun with the > tooth counts". Like it says, what's a tooth here or there? With wide > range cassettes, you're always bound to find a ge

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Reading between the lines it sounds like "let's have some fun with the tooth counts". Like it says, what's a tooth here or there? With wide range cassettes, you're always bound to find a gear somewhere that works. Pricing is in line with plain flat rings and they're made from 7075 alloy so s

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

No worries, Richard. Google takes care of the order based on the chronology of the posts, not on which posts you are responding to. Will this be your first Rivendell? Enjoy your test ride! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:43:08 PM UTC-7, Richard Rios wrote: > > Hi All, Tha

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Richard, I find that seattube length is practically meaningless beyond my ability to lean the bike over and get a leg over. It's all in the toptube, which is also a bit theoretical until you factor in stem and bar reach. If you think you can get saddle-to-bar-reach to work for you on that frame,

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Hi All, Thank you for the responses they have been very helpful. I am in contact with the owner of the bike and we are working on a time to get together for a test ride... :) I apologize if my post pops up out of order or seems like I am responding to myself as I am still working on figuring

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Riv's sizing chart, as posted on their wall in a grid, puts an 82pbh on a 53-54.5 Atlantis. Too far away to take for a test ride? On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:14:33 AM UTC-8, Richard Rios wrote: > > Hi All, > > I ran across this Atlantis for sale while browsing the local Craig's List. > http

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

I have an Eisentraut, too, though from the '70s. From what I know of his history, he built race frames almost exclusively. He was probably the best American frame builder of the day, but I don't see him as compararble to Riv. That's the rub, I'ld say. Until 1970, when as Steve points out abov

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

I agree with Jim M. The title of the OP is "Who was RBW back in the 1960's?" Then the post itself asks who made the finest lugged steel frames in the USA in the 1960's. Those are two questions. The implication is that they are equivalent questions, but I agree with Jim M in pointing out tha

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Thank you all for the feedback. Sounds like I am in the ball park :). I would be lowering the seat post for sure. The current owner is quite a bit taller than I am with a longer PBH which is why he is looking for a bicycle with a bigger frame. A test ride sounds like it is in order. Again t

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Shoji noted "(I hope it doesn't have that hidden chainring bolt!)" +1 on that! I fancy myself good at figuring out mechanical stuff, but have always been baffled at whatever logic (or lack thereof) went into that idea. I have a Deore crankset on another bike and when I look at the Sugino on m

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

The 53 Atlantis has a 55cm top tube. That works in your favor, since you want it to fit a little bigger. The 54.5 would only gain you 1cm in the top tube (56cm). That is easily equalized with a longer reach stem or a bit of seat setback. Frame geometry link on this page: http://www.rivbike.com

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

The market for quality lugged bicycle framed bicycles in the U.S. for adults was virtually non-existent before the U.S. "Bike Boom" that began in the early 1970's. What little demand existed was more than accommodated by the Schwinn Paramount for domestic buyers and imports from England, France

Re: [RBW] Re: What deals they were!

I don't believe the explanation for the price increases is as simple as going from Japan to US manufacture, with currency exchanges, and such. It looks like the Atlantis and some of Riv's other non-Taiwan frames are now a made-to-order kinda thing, when before it was produced in some quantity (

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

If the seatheight in the photos is for a pbh 85 dude, then a pbh 82 dude should be quite happy on it. Go for it! What's the worst that could happen? On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:42:55 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: > > Bill, > > The bike is my Brother's. He picked it up on a spur of the moment

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 01:06 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Steve, You mean like this? Sat Night and Sun Morning No, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOE0DbfWqyo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: What deals they were!

On Monday, December 16, 2013 1:03:14 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > However, the thing with getting a custom Rivendell is you're buying not > just a beautiful custom steel frame, but their philosophy. You're getting > a Grant-designed bike with his specific geometry for YOU. Yes, others

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Richard: Likely you can easily fit more than one frame size. Rivendell has published a couple of charts over the years and there is usually a bit of overlap in frame sizes, and their recommendations tend to larger sizes. Definitely worth giving this one a serious look and take your wrenches s

[RBW] Brooks leather bar tape - care & feeding tips?

Hello again, Rivsters. I picked up some Brooks leather bar tape for my girlfriend's xmas gift, a Soma San Marcos. It will match the honey B17S and look beautiful with the pearly blue paint. (She knows she's getting the San Marcos; it's in her living room as we finish building it. But she has no

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Bill, The bike is my Brother's. He picked it up on a spur of the moment from a fellow in San Diego. He has a PBH of 85 cm so it's just a bit too small for him. My other Brother Andrew borrowed it for a day he's 5'9" with a PBH somewhere around 82 cm and it seemed to fit well. Bruce would be bet

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:14:33 AM UTC-8, Richard Rios wrote: > > Hi All, > > I ran across this Atlantis for sale while browsing the local Craig's List. > http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/4225656821.html . The bike was > originally listed as a 53.5 so I was uncertain as to what th

[RBW] Re: Atlantis 53 or 54.5

What did the seller say? The listing says the seller would be willing to trade for a bigger size. Is the seller about your height/pbh? What's the seat height in the picture? If you would have to raise it more than the seller already has it, I'd say don't do it. If you'd be lowering it, then

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

> In 1964 I bought a Dunelt in a bike shop in Buffalo NY. Good point. Some bike shops did sell European and even Japanese offerings. (FWIW, I have a couple of Dunelt head badges in my collection. >(and Tom is legendary for his fitting skills) The best. Every time I get on my Kellogg I mar

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Aah! I had always thought John Finley Scott was a Brit. Here's an excellent Wastyn mixte (1948): http://www.flickr.com/photos/77646587@N00/5688693545/ =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 12/17/13, Jim M. wrote: > On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:40:13 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >> "Who was

[RBW] Re: FS: SlickerSack & Platrack

You got a link, Hugh? I can't find anything but spandex for women by Sheila Moon. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:43:51 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: > > Deacon, > > Looks like Sheila Moon makes em. > > ~Hugh > > On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:40:58 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick w

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 01:23 PM, Jim M. wrote: I have an Eisentraut, too, though from the '70s. From what I know of his history, he built race frames almost exclusively. He was probably the best American frame builder of the day, but I don't see him as compararble to Riv. The fact of race vs touring f

[RBW] Re: FS: SlickerSack & Platrack

Deacon, Looks like Sheila Moon makes em. ~Hugh On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:40:58 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Allan, > > Who makes your tweed knickers/breeches? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 11:36:57 PM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: >> >> Tweed shorts

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:40:13 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > "Who was RBW back in the 1960's?" > Maybe John Finley Scott: http://bicycledesign.net/2008/08/way-ahead-of-his-time/ and his woodsie bike: : [image: [woodsie.jpg]] Though he never went into production with it. jim m

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

(Mainstream) USA production heritage will inevitably be filtered through the lens of Schwinn - Eisentraut started out at the famous Oscar Wastyn (Schwinn) shop, for example. Later during the 1970's, upstart framebuilders (like Ritchey, or many MTB pioneers, or even niche builders like Sam Braxton)

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:40:25 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 12/17/2013 12:22 PM, Jim M. wrote: > > But the question isn't just who are among the best American frame builders > today; it's in the 1960s. And in the 1960s, Peter Weigle had yet to move > to England, along with Ri

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Steve, You mean like this? Sat Night and Sun Morning On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:20:33 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 12/17/2013 11:27 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > > Bobby, I tried to answer that above with my fishing reel analogy. > > Artisa

RE: [RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Could be done - there's a guy doing limited edition chainrings in Australia, I assume by CNC:http://bespokechainrings.com/ Here's one of his rings on a Bombadil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/11052561793/ And closer up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/11050679523/in

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:32:45 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > Very cool. > Wouldn't it be cool if they had a whole line of "Silver" branded > components? > Could deck out the whole frameset with complete Silver build. > > Wonder if they will only sell these rings from now on at RBW? > Gla

Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 12:22 PM, Jim M. wrote: On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:27:10 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel, frames back then and what were the prices like? I think that's a different question than who was Rivendell in the '60s. Rivendell's are great f

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 10:25 AM, Matthew J wrote: Without googling, I do not recall off hand whether the Japanese Schwinns were available in the 1960s or 1970s. 1970s after 1970. Images of the 1960-1970 Schwinn catalogs are on-line here: http://waterfordbikes.com/SchwinnCat/flschwinn_1961_1970/ -- Y

[RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:27:10 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel, frames back then and what were > the prices like? > I think that's a different question than who was Rivendell in the '60s. Rivendell's are great frames (I have 3), but I'd say a Bruce Gor

Re: [RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Nowadays that would most likely mean cnc machining which would probably make it cost prohibitive. Cool idea but does it mean you only get the one chain ring.? On Dec 17, 2013 12:19 PM, "Michael" wrote: > That would be cool if they have a crankset with the "RBW" built into it >> like the old Ralei

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 11:27 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Bobby, I tried to answer that above with my fishing reel analogy. Artisan shops were production in the UK, while assembly lines were production in the US. I'm pretty sure that most Raleigh bicycle production in the UK qualified as "assembly line" rather

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

> > That would be cool if they have a crankset with the "RBW" built into it > like the old Raleighs had the goosenecks, or whatever bird that was... > http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8955519536/in/set-72157633937039591 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Thanks Ron. IMO those Japanese Schwinns were as close as one would find to the Riv model in the U.S. at the time. The owner did a great job on the restoration too. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:46:19 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > Matthew, there was a very trick '73 (Japanese) World Voyager pos

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Matthew, there was a very trick '73 (Japanese) World Voyager posted on the CABE yesterday http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?51177-1973-Schwinn-World-Voyageur On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:25:50 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: > > As I understand the history, Waterford is a direct success

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Bobby, I tried to answer that above with my fishing reel analogy. Artisan shops were production in the UK, while assembly lines were production in the US. As late as the '50s, Hardy reels were stamped ins

[RBW] Atlantis 53 or 54.5

Hi All, I ran across this Atlantis for sale while browsing the local Craig's List. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/4225656821.html . The bike was originally listed as a 53.5 so I was uncertain as to what the actual frame size was since I could not find one listed as 53.5. In any event

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

I think you're right.. Schwinn (Paramount) was the only company (at least that I can recall) manufacturing lugged racing/touring frames in the US in the 60s. There were other US brands in the mass-market (like Rollfast, Columbia, Huffy, etc), but I don't recall any of them focusing on racing or

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

As I understand the history, Waterford is a direct successor from the factory originally started by Wastyn and Schwinn to build Paramounts. The U.S. did not really have a Rivendell-like company in the 1960s. Schwinn was still dominant at the time. The Chicago facility made Schwinn branded bik

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

King of Mercia frame goes back to at least 1956. http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/builders/mercian2.html IMO, probably the most Riv-esque frame of the period. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:51:20 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: > > I agree Paramounts are gorgeous handmade frames, and is likely

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

I'm waiting for the crankset to come out. I vaguely remember a mention in Blug or somewhere Riv that Mark A. was designing a Silver crank. (I hope it doesn't have that hidden chainring bolt!) On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:50:40 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > very cool indeed. They look sharp.

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

I agree Paramounts are gorgeous handmade frames, and is likely the pinnacle of American handmade bicycles during the time - and maybe the only example we'll come up with.. Does it count the same as the branded Waterford frames? But if you look at the flagships, Varsity vs. Grand Prix - there

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

Not Silver, S!LVER I like it. On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:32:45 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: > > Very cool. > Wouldn't it be cool if they had a whole line of "Silver" branded > components? > Could deck out the whole frameset with complete Silver build. > > Wonder if they will only sell these r

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

On 12/17/2013 08:44 AM, Ron Mc wrote: well yes, Mercian is in Mercia. not to be confused with 'Merica On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:32:06 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: Isn’t Mercian British? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Schwinn was making beautiful, lugged Paramounts back in those days. Those bikes are very collectable and are still ridden today. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Michael wrote: > > Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel,

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Which is, of course, the source of Mericun frames. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On Dec 17, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > >> On 12/17/2013 08:44 AM, Ron Mc wrote: >> well yes, Mercian is in Mercia. > > not to be confused with 'Merica

[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

very cool indeed. They look sharp. I hope everybody has that Park tool in their toolkit. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tl011.htm On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:32:45 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: > > Very cool. > Wouldn't it be cool if they had a whole line of "Silver" branded > components? >

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

well yes, Mercian is in Mercia. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:32:06 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote: > > Isn’t Mercian British? > > > > *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Ron Mc > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:25 AM > *To:* rbw-owne..

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

If you don't mind a little off topic historical perspective. I collect and repair antique fly reels. The US-made reels were all good designs that came off an assembly line, where manufacturing process design was first and foremost. The Pflueger Medalist was the premiere American production fl

RE: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

Isn't Mercian British? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Mc Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:25 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: tim...@bitstream.net Subject: Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's? My vote goes to

Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

My vote goes to Mercian. On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Michael > > wrote: > > > > Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel, frames back then and what were > the prices like? > > Albert Eisentraut was sort of the g

[RBW] Re: FS: SlickerSack & Platrack

Allan, Who makes your tweed knickers/breeches? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, December 16, 2013 11:36:57 PM UTC-7, Allan in Portland wrote: > > Tweed shorts are spoken for. > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:03:08 PM UTC-8, Allan in Portland wrote: >> >> Bump. With pictures this time. And a n

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Possibly off topic but not by too much: Classic Burberry trench.

It's not what is conventionally marked a 48; it is meant to fit someone rather tall and narrow. Again, it fits me still while wearing a 42 R sport coat, albeit a wee bit more snugly than is perfect, and when I bought it I was probably 10-15 lb lighter than I am now. In fact, nowadays, it fits me be