Re: [RBW] Re: King Grip Pedals

2012-07-24 Thread Rex Kerr
Well, I just finished overhauling my King Grips. Not excited to have to do it when they're brand new, but it seems to have gotten rid of the clicking! I'll try a longer test ride in a few days, too busy right now and have to ride a different bike on Friday. They were surprisingly dry, almost no g

Re: [RBW] Image Request: Boscoe Bars from Above

2012-07-24 Thread Joe Bunik
Scrutinizing my low res photos, I should add that the bolt of the quill stem is centered somewhat between the 17" and 18" mark on the tape- hence bar ends extend rearward another 6" beyond (8" with barend fully straight). =- Joe On 7/24/12, Joe Bunik wrote: > Hmm... I avoid the bar end knee stri

Re: [RBW] Image Request: Boscoe Bars from Above

2012-07-24 Thread Joe Bunik
Hmm... I avoid the bar end knee strike by virtue of the long stem (and possibly top tube) - interesting to see how you set yours up more MTB-style, John. I'll say though, the bars do give a Nice Big Ride quality - this long chainstayed Trek rides like a limo- or a paperboy bike. My feeble attempt a

[RBW] Re: Image Request: Boscoe Bars from Above

2012-07-24 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Just for you, Rob... https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rdv8D5eDwhPB0lhsb1sgHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink If you need more details than what's in the caption, give a holler. --Andy On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:26:20 PM UTC-7, Rob wrote: > > Does anyone have a pic of the bullmoose (o

Re: [RBW] Ride Report : Ajit's Ride Through Detroit

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
Awesome report, pictures are making me hungry! I have never been west of the Mississippi but Detroit looks pretty chill. Reminds me of Baltimore, a hip place that doesn't want to make a big deal about it, unlike (ahem) other cities. On Jul 24, 2012 10:48 PM, "Peter Pesce" wrote: > Great photos!

[RBW] Ride Report : Ajit's Ride Through Detroit

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Pesce
Great photos! Thanks. I agree. We need less idyllic Cali cycling and more real world grit! :) -Pete in (gritty) CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/r

[RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread ted
Curious. I think track racers were much slower than road racers to adopt clipless systems. When I went to the velodrome (several years ago but long after clipless became dominant on road bikes) the only folks using clipless were the ones using their road bike pedals on the rental bikes. Virtually e

[RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Mike
With broken collarbones it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Seattle To SF Tour.

2012-07-24 Thread Rob
Sounds great! If you think of it, let us know when you'll be in Seattle. Maybe we can meet. Lots of excellent beer here to be sampled. :) Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Image Request: Boscoe Bars from Above

2012-07-24 Thread Rob
Does anyone have a pic of the bullmoose (or any) Bosco Bars from above, looking directly down at 'em? Not from the cockpit, but as if you were standing on a ladder directly overhead? I'd like to see how far back behind the quill the ends of the bars fall, and get a better idea of the angle. Thi

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Joe Bernard
*Except that collar bones, broken arms, road rash and what all won't kill you and won't destroy your personality the way a brain injury can.* Pre. Cisely. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:56:08 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 17:52 -0700, Matthew J

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 17:52 -0700, Matthew J wrote: > Thing is, more solo bike accidents conclude with busted knees, collar > bones, arms, road rash than concussions or skull fractures. > Except that collar bones, broken arms, road rash and what all won't kill you and won't destroy your personali

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Matthew J
Thing is, more solo bike accidents conclude with busted knees, collar bones, arms, road rash than concussions or skull fractures. The shoulder, knee and elbow pads football players wear would certainly have made a difference in these situations. None the less, day in and day out I see cyclists

[RBW] Re: Ride Report : Ajit's Ride Through Detroit

2012-07-24 Thread Mike
Looks like a good time. An excellent urban ramble. We need more post like this on this list. This was my favorite picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/7636734796/in/set-72157630727710932 --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners B

[RBW] Re: Brooks Despatch

2012-07-24 Thread pb
Is the geometry of the Mercian at the bottom of the page as tradly as it appears on that page? It looks positively Edwardian. DL-1-ian. Roadsterian. Can also be seen on the John Boultbee clothing page, looking similar. Peter San Diego On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:05:57 PM UTC-7, J

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 16:16 -0700, Joe Bernard wrote: > I don't consider it a matter of life and death; rather, going home > sore, or going home with a concussion. A helmet isn't gonna do you > much good in a collision with a car, but most riders have at one time > or another had some sort of solo

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't consider it a matter of life and death; rather, going home sore, or going home with a concussion. A helmet isn't gonna do you much good in a collision with a car, but most riders have at one time or another had some sort of solo crash. A popped tire, a slide on oil, front wheel caught in

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 18:35 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: > Oh, I agree, i am one of the better safe than sorry worry warts who > makes sure he has his keys twice before he locks the door behind him. > I do think that helmets can prevent injury but I just dont know if > they can save your life in a s

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
Oh, I agree, i am one of the better safe than sorry worry warts who makes sure he has his keys twice before he locks the door behind him. I do think that helmets can prevent injury but I just dont know if they can save your life in a situation where you would otherwise be killed. On Tue, Jul 24, 2

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 17:49 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: > I have also crashed and thought the helmet stopped me from being hurt > worse than I could have been but studies have shown that is just how > we feel, which is not always accurate to what is actually going on. > The evidence is pretty subst

[RBW] Re: FS: New in Box - Edulux, SonDelux, Stans ZTR 355 rims, Hetres

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
Only the rims are still available Thank you! Kevin On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:18:31 PM UTC-5, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: > > I've got some fancy parts leftover from a rando build that never > materialized: > > Everything is NIB > Silver Edulux $150 > 32h Silver SonDelux hub $240 > (2x) 32h Stans ZTR

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
I have also crashed and thought the helmet stopped me from being hurt worse than I could have been but studies have shown that is just how we feel, which is not always accurate to what is actually going on. The evidence is pretty substantial that putting and inch of foam between your head and the

[RBW] Brooks Despatch

2012-07-24 Thread Jim Cloud
I just received the latest "Brooks Despatch" in my e-mail folder this morning. Here's a link if any of you are interested: http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=779d0fc02cc4843db052687bf&id=e949f9f1f0&e=1885fd186c I thought it was interesting that Brooks now makes their leather bags in Britain (Bi

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 16:09 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: > I think that what Grant is driving at is that while seatbelts and > other safety improvements have gone a long way to save lives (in cars, > sorry) helmet technology simply has not advanced that far and is being > applied as a panacea to tel

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 13:26 -0700, Norman Bone wrote: > Hi Steve- > > > Have you read this?: > http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Buckle-Up-And-Behave.html > I'm with Anne McCartt. As I said, I was there. I know how people drove then and I know how people drive now

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Norman Bone
Hi Steve- Have you read this?: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Buckle-Up-And-Behave.html Norman in Portland, OR From: Steve Palincsar To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [RBW]

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that what Grant is driving at is that while seatbelts and other safety improvements have gone a long way to save lives (in cars, sorry) helmet technology simply has not advanced that far and is being applied as a panacea to tell people they are "safer" when in fact they are probably not. ht

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that what Grant is driving at is that while seatbelts and other safety improvements have gone a long way to save lives helmet technology simply has not advanced that far and is being applied as a panacea to tell people they are "safer" when in fact they are probably not. http://www.guardian

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 12:47 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: > > I also don't agree with Grant that wearing a helmet necessarily > promotes a riskier still of riding. I've ridden both without a helmet > and with a helmet, and I don't believe that my riding style changes > one iota. Were the "safety equip

Re: [RBW] too many bikes!

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
All too familiar, except of course for the last part, haha. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Liesl wrote: > uh-oh, friends, I fear this is just about all of us talking to our > significant other... > > http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11176570/you-can-never-have-too-many-bikes > > -- > You receiv

[RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Jim Cloud
The choice to wear a helmet is entirely up to the individual and I don't wish to start a pro-helmet/anti-helmet discussion. I do, however, find that my current preference is in favor of wearing a helmet. I also don't agree with Grant that wearing a helmet necessarily promotes a riskier still of r

[RBW] too many bikes!

2012-07-24 Thread Liesl
uh-oh, friends, I fear this is just about all of us talking to our significant other... http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/11176570/you-can-never-have-too-many-bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on t

[RBW] Pedals

2012-07-24 Thread Ryan Ray
Started with platforms Went to clips, then to clip-less Finally: platforms When I got back into cycling someone actually pointed out the Riv site to me. I read the articles, tried some stuff out. The Shoes Ruse was one of the articles I read more than once. I tried flat pedals with my vans and

[RBW] Re: FS: New in Box - Edulux, SonDelux, Stans ZTR 355 rims, Hetres

2012-07-24 Thread Mitch Browne
Kevin, I will take the Hetres. Mitch On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:18:31 AM UTC-7, Kevin Mulcahy wrote: > > I've got some fancy parts leftover from a rando build that never > materialized: > > Everything is NIB > Silver Edulux $150 > 32h Silver SonDelux hub $240 > (2x) 32h Stans ZTR 355 650b ri

[RBW] FS: New in Box - Edulux, SonDelux, Stans ZTR 355 rims, Hetres

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
I've got some fancy parts leftover from a rando build that never materialized: Everything is NIB Silver Edulux $150 32h Silver SonDelux hub $240 (2x) 32h Stans ZTR 355 650b rims $150 (2x) 605b x 42mm Hetres, black tread $100 offers accepted, Buyer pays shipping (and tracking/insurance if they so

[RBW] Ride Report : Ajit's Ride Through Detroit

2012-07-24 Thread Amit Singh
My good friend Ajit was in town, visiting from Boston to attend his sister's baby shower. He promised to spend Sunday with me. Generally, when we get together, it involves adventure. This time, we explored Detroit City by bicycle. We saw lots of great wall art, had a few cups of rich and del

Re: [RBW] Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
David, its just that the city for all of Doomberg's proselytizing is still set up mainly for car traffic, even though a good bit of people dont drive. And the outer boroughs are really deprived, but that is par for the course in the city. I lived in the Hudson Valley on the border of NJ for 12 ye

[RBW] FS: Shimano cantilevers

2012-07-24 Thread Mark Chandler
Looks like I'm swearing off canti's for good. Up for grabs is a bike's worth of Shimano BR-R550 cantilever brakes (compatible with drop-bar levers, nice silver finish). Lightly used. Includes Shimano link wires and fancy Tektro yokes/straddle cables (silver finish, which matches the brake ar

[RBW] FS: 53cm Atlantis Frameset

2012-07-24 Thread Jon Flaxman
I'm trying to make some liquid funds, so here's my one-owner Atlantis. One of the original ones, it was built by Toyo with the fancier-than-now lugs. Built for 26" wheels and it has braze-ons galore. I converted my 26" wheeled Riv A/R to 650b and it was an absolute joy. You could do the same wit

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell in Cycling Illustrated

2012-07-24 Thread Robert Barr
Scot - very nice, congratulations on the column. I look forward to seeing your column evolve. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Forrest wrote: > Nice column and photo, Scot! > > > On Monday, July 23, 2012 2:51:52 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: >> >> So I've managed to infiltrate the world of Cycli

[RBW] Re: Samuel P Taylor S240 Video - Back to Earth.

2012-07-24 Thread Tommy
Inspiring, and well put together. Excellent choice of cast, too! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1yFLFBuTaTMJ. To post to this group

Re: [RBW] Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread David Hallerman
On 7/23/12 3:42 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: Shame that the alot of the city is still stuck in Robert Moses mode Well, since 54% of households in New York City do not own a car -- a lower percentage of car ownership than any other city in the US of A -- perhaps the "a lot" being "stuck" is totally

[RBW] Re: FS: m-bars, levers, silver bar ends, and more

2012-07-24 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
See Picture Captions Here for updates of what's still available. Thanks for the interest. --Andy On Monday, July 23, 2012 9:51:43 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: > > Usual story… cleaning out th

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Peter Morgano
Maybe it's an individual thing, I always found myself stomping on them to get more power. Now I just sit in super low gear and if it's that steep take a nice walk, my knees go snap crackle and pop in the morning as it is, haha. On Jul 24, 2012 10:25 AM, "PATRICK MOORE" wrote: > When I climb thos

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread PATRICK MOORE
When I climb those steep hills, I am very aware of pulling up quite hard to gain extra torque, something I can't do as well with clips and straps. I can feel the bike accelerate when pulling hard. On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: > When I rode fixie for a long time I used th

[RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

2012-07-24 Thread Mike
It's nice that the book is getting some exposure and being discussed. Hopefully the people who are taking its message to heart are too busy having fun riding their bike to chime in via the web. As for NYC... I love visiting but have no desire to ride my bike there. I've spent a fair amount of